Um… doesn’t she realize that those bullet points were SATIRE? As in, NOT REAL?

So, unfortunately, it has to be said. Twilight fans are not stupid.

I am above the remarks I could make.

They are not a definite sub-class or counterculture.

Um… I beg to differ.

They are a diverse group of people, including highly intellectual men and women

Really? Like who?

^^I really doubt that many men read the books. Some boys do, but adult men? I hope not.

So, perhaps a bit of the same, stooping medicine is in order to heal these wounds: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.”

Really? So no one can talk about Twilight or its fans unless it’s to say how marvelous the franchise is and what intelligent people they must be?

I don’t think that all Twilight fans are stupid, just the obssessive ones who are in love with Edward.

They are a diverse group of people, including highly intellectual men and women

Really? Like who?

Smartalien, you are talking like you don’t believe there are any smart Twililght fans. While we haven’t encountered many fans that can type very well, or present very good arguments it doesn’t mean that they aren’t intelligent people IRL.

Ehh, I must confess, although it is fun stereotyping Twifans to be 13 year old girls, it does make me uneasy sometimes.

It’s Inheritance all over again…

It’s Inheritance all over again…

Really? I never saw any Eragon shower curtains…

^^See, I don’t mind the sane ones… I actually like that icon thing.

Too bad not all ImpishIdea users are intelligent…

Too bad not everybody in the world agrees about world peace…

And this could go on forever.

I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t have forever, so quit with the sniping.

It’s too bad all the sansafro187s aren’t intelligent, either. Can’t stand those assholes.

There’a little too much emotion involved in the writing of that article, enough that it gets a bit whiny. Otherwise, I don’t really have a problem with it. Twilighters can defend themselves any way they wish, but it doesn’t change much.

shrug I don’t really think there’s particularly over-much of a problem with Twilight fan-bashing in mainstream media anyway, so what’s the article writer’s problem? I think she’s making a mountain out of a molehill- or, at least, a small pile of dirt out of a slightly smaller pile of dirt.

That being said, I’m not upset or anything by the article, because she does have a valid point- not all Twilighters are Twihards. It’s just that the vocal ones (a group primarily made up of the 13-year-old girls in love with Edward who don’t know proper Internet etiquette) are almost exclusively idiots. I know several perfectly intelligent people (well… OK, I know one) who has read Twilight and, while she’d be the first to say they have severe problems, likes them.

(a valid point, I say… even if she was just a wee bit too whiny for my tastes)

I know several non-idiotic fans as well. That doesn’t mean the stupid ones don’t deserve to be made fun of.

Link please?

Mmm… I disliked the following sentence:

To add insult to the injurious sentiments…

I dunno. It stood out to me.

In terms of the actual content, though, I think it`s valid to a certain degree. I will bash the blind followers who push their beliefs on me. While doing so, if I stereotype with the term ``Twilight fan`` or anything of the sort, the stereotype is aimed at those specific people, not the intelligent fans. I`m pretty sure any intelligent Twilight fan will be able to distinguish between themselves and the media`s perceived Twihard norm. Their self-esteem should be intact.

Being perceived as a Twilight fan shouldn`t really affect social interaction all too much, either. I don`t think I`ve ever disliked someone on the basis that they like Twilight. It`s not really much of a factor (the obnoxious behaviour that occasionally accompanies being a stereotypical fan, on the other hand…).

As a result, I don`t really see much of a point to this article. There`s not much of a downside to being an intelligent Twilight fan

Edit: And I guess that means I won`t stop the bashing on the Twihards…
Edit2: Aw Rocky, hearing you call the II community intelligent makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside ego boost

You`ve got to be kidding me. There`s no way that Twilight could have won best anything. ESPECIALLY not best fight.

This is blasphemy… this is madness!

Twilight winning Best Fight over The Dark Knight?

What?

I was coming into this thread to admonish people for flinging arbitrary intellectual measurements around, until I saw this. Now, I just don’t know what to say.

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Over The Dark Knight?

I’m sorry, but the Joker would totally beat Edward in a fight. At least, a fight of scariness, because Edward is not that scary at all.

MTV always panders to cultural irrelevance. :P

Twilight winning Best Fight over The Dark Knight?

Ok, I was willing to live and let live…

But you just F* with the goddamn batman!

Insanity. Mass insanity. Also, didn’t someone say once that they figured the appeal of Twilight was due to drugs being rubbed in the pages? Maybe they release hallucinatory drugs into the air at theaters…

Smartalien, you are talking like you don’t believe there are any smart Twililght fans. While we haven’t encountered many fans that can type very well, or present very good arguments it doesn’t mean that they aren’t intelligent people IRL.

Oops, sorry. It wasn’t the intellectual part I was responding to, it was the “men and women” comment.

To be fair, the Dark Knight didn’t really have all that many fight scenes. TDN had awesome action sequences, but the actual fisticuffs between Batman and the Joker weren’t all that elaborate.

Silence!

Well they were fairly realistic and quick. Still, the scene where Batman is fighting BOTH the bad guys and the SWAT team and trying to keep anyone from dying has got to be one of the best moments in moviedom EVER.

Twilight? To quote the rifftrax guys: what you saw there is the same as you can see every day in professional wrestling.

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Except the WWE is hilarious.

What do you mean? I found Twilight hilarious.

I haven’t seen it, so I don’t really know how funny it is.

“Hold tight, spider monkey.”

The line so lame, even the Twi-hards hate it.

Oh here you go everyone – again. Just click on “watch a sample” on the side to get a taste.

But I thought it wasn’t real!

But I thought it wasn’t real!

Of course it is staged, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t hard as hell to do properly. Not a that I’m a fan anymore(it was called WWF back when I liked it) but I think that’s a pretty unflattering/unfair comparison.

Has Robert said anything else interesting lately? Any more Twilight bashing?

Not that I know of. He’s probably realized the fans are far too dense to pick up on his feelings toward it, and decided to see it through to the bitter end. I guess we will see if he starts doing more interviews in the run-up to Twilight 2: Twilight Harder here in a few months IIRC.

I think she simply didn’t plan ahead.

Legend speaks of men who transform into Mormon housewives on the night of the New Moon to convince their spouses, daughters, and sisters that real men sparkle.

So, if “werewolf” is a generally-accepted term for them in the books, what’s the problem? And didn’t I read something somewhere about SMeyer saying that she doesn’t like them being called that? Or was that just the internet lying to me again? That damned internet is such a jerk.

Also, were-armadillos would be awesome.

Beware the moon!

I think she must have been trying to cover that she had allowed the wolves to shift whenever they pleased in the book before. Convenient, but not accurate. So she explained it away in the next book so she could continue to have them change at will.

I think that if she had done that, the story would make more sense and be less convoluted.