Not signed in (Sign In)

Categories

Vanilla 1.1.8 is a product of Lussumo. More Information: Documentation, Community Support.

Welcome Guest!
Want to take part in these discussions? If you have an account, sign in now.
If you don't have an account, apply for one now.
  1.  

    (note irony in title)

    Most of my characters vary in degrees to which they control their emotions. Some are hotblooded, others are only friendly in private, or quiet about everything except “insert their obsession here”. Two characters in particular came out as the opposite of their intent. My calm, bookish nurse, Mari, is also an alcoholic and exhibitionist. The quiet, skilled Older Brother character is so impulsive, I don’t see him ever following through The Plan in any story I make with him.

    But now I’ve decided I will try my hand at a mysterious Emotionless Girl. She’s a secondary character, who will won’t have viewpoint chapters, just to spite readers. So, now I have to face the challenges of:

    1) What can make a character “emotionless”?
    2) What invokes mystery in a character?
    3) How can I shape this girl to be different than the stock she’s carved from?

    Okay, I’m being kicked out of my lab. I’ll be back later!

    •  
      CommentAuthorEbelean
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2009
     
    She doesn't actually have to be truly emotionless to seem that way. Many characters seem to be until the reader finds out the background information on why they are that way. Does that make any sense?

    Although, now I see you might not want to give her any background...
    •  
      CommentAuthorTakuGifian
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2009 edited
     

    I like the use of scathing sarcasm and really dry wit, but delivered deadpan. An emotionless character won’t care what people think of her, and won’t care about hurting people’s feelings.

    What level of ‘emotionless’ are you going for? there’s the high end of magically/chemically induced emotionlessness, where the character literally can’t feel emotions at all, then there’s the sociopathic angle, and then you’ve got ‘was hurt once and is afraid of opening up emotionally and /or exposing weakness’.

    I like the third option most myself, because character actually does feel, but desperately hides it to avoid getting hurt. Heaps of potentil for character development there, especially once the weakness is exposed.

    •  
      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2009
     

    Well, is the character actually emotionless (literally does not feel emotions at all), emotionally scarred (so they’re afraid to open up), or just hides their emotions (they think they get in the way, they don’t want to have to explain themselves to others, they interfere with their job/whatever, etc.)? If you need an example of the last one, it’s like a secret agent or Batman or something- they have emotions, sure, but they need to ignore them to get their job done.

    •  
      CommentAuthorAdamPottle
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2009
     
    If you want to get finicky, there aren't really that many emotionless people kicking around in real life. They all slip up at some point.
  2.  

    I can’t buy people being totally emotionless. Seriously emotionally repressed I can buy, since my male lead is like that for a long time. I think the “why” is important to know when writing characters like that, as well as what the character thinks of him/herself, like…

    Are they aware of their own emotional deficiencies, or do they consider themselves ‘normal’?
    If so, do they even consider said deficiencies a problem in any way?
    Are they open about it, or do they try and mask it by appearing normal?

    The best ‘emotionless’ character I’ve encountered is Dexter from Dexter, but IMO even he has emotions, although he is unable to recognize them the overwhelming majority of the time. Give it a look if you haven’t already seen it.

  3.  

    You could try for seriously lacking in social skills. There was this girl at my college last year- usually had a glower on her face, got offended by anything, lectured people, was self-righteous… but I got treated to a crying spell because her special pen (it records lectures because she’s severely dyslexic) broke. I also got treated to her musing to herself about why people dislike her. She didn’t seem to understand why… it was because she was mean, grumpy, rude, sarcastic, bitchy, etc. She followed me around for a while, I tried to socialise her, but it didn’t work because she pissed off all my friends (and me). Thankfully she transferred schools. Except for the crying spell, she was pretty damn near to be emotionless.

  4.  

    I half-expected you to say “...And that girl was me“ at the end.

  5.  

    lol… Crying over her pen.

    I’m wondering now. I could use the magically induced angle. I just wanted to try it out… I’ll call her Huang for now.

    Actually, Huang comes from an empathetic race, so I have been experimenting on what emotions mean for her entire species. The most advanced society, Central, has a system in place that limits social empathy. People have more privacy when in large groups. (Such a nation doesn’t have cities, but more like central meeting places for herding nomads…. Wow, I guess that’s why the whole countryside is called Central. lol.)

    So, in a nation where everyone’s emotions are on display, what is someone who shows nothing? Is she like a mute? Could I have a “scientific” in-story reason for why others can’t sense her reactions?

    •  
      CommentAuthorEbelean
    • CommentTimeOct 9th 2009
     
    Unless you really, truly love your scientific explanation and can back it up, it might be better not to go for that. Science can lead into tricky territory.
  6.  

    Yeah. Yay for “a wizard did it” fantasy. lol

    • CommentAuthorsimian
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2009
     
    If you really want to explore the concept of emotionless, you may want to look into actual psychological research on similar conditions. I remember listening to a talk show where a doctor was looking into a condition like that (some form of schizophrenia, I think) and mentioned how one person she dealt with could spend an hour trying to decide what color pen to use because, at it's core, "black or blue" is an emotional decision ("I prefer black," or "I don't care which I use") since under most circumstances it really doesn't matter. Try to really consider all the trivial decisions you make in life (food, clothes, entertainment), or those where the outcome is determined by habit (which is also largely emotional) and try to put your head into considering what it would be like to actually have to look for a logical choice (or, y'know, try to do it that way in fact ... just make sure nobody's waiting on you to make your decision.) Someone who lacks emotions might also have a lot of trouble relating to others (I do know the name of that condition; Asperger's.)
  7.  

    Maybe she just accepts whatever’s going on and doesn’t get upset over much, in which case, might ‘passionless’ be a better description? She doesn’t seem to care about getting embarrassed, etc?

    This is just my slant on things, though.

    @ simian. That is really interesting. Any buzz words to look out for so I can Google that?

    • CommentAuthorsimian
    • CommentTimeOct 14th 2009
     
    Steph: It was bothering me that I couldn't recall the interview. Fortunately, my search-fu is strong.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101334645
  8.  

    THANKS! (o_O )

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2009
     

    No, Sansa the girl was not me. Thank God. My social skills have never been that horrendous.

  9.  

    If you say so, Willow. If you say so.