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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Well, there wasn’t a thread for this yet, so… here goes. This thread is for any discussion on videogames.

    I’m a huge Valve fan, myself. Half Life 2 was amazing and Left4Dead was intensely fun while freaking you out at the same time. Portal was also pretty awesome, and I can’t wait for Portal 2 to come out so I can play with portals more! I also hope Portal 2 is longer.

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    Pokemon is awesome.
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    I am saddened that episode 3 will be the end.

    • CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    The Legend of Zelda is more awesome. Especially the GBC Zeldas.

    • CommentAuthorGolcondio
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     
    Mount&Blade is made of win; as soon as it goes multiplayer it will be epic!
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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Atlus’ Dept. Heaven series FTW.
    Also, (especially GB and N64) Zeldas.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Mount&Blade is made of win; as soon as it goes multiplayer it will be epic!

    Awesome, that you play M&B. I don’t currently have a computer that can run it, but if I did I’d probably be obsessed.

    Valve is pretty amazing. It’s rare for a single studio to be so devoted to quality. I think Valve is one of the few companies outside of independent gaming that understands games can sometimes be art. Sadly, my other favorite company, Bioware, seems to be in a semi-state of decline.

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    Kingdom Under Fire: Crusaders and Heroes.

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    I play old C64 and Genesis games, mostly, but hardly anything beats Ratchet and Clank for some mindless blasting.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Ratchet and Clank truly has some of the best weapons ever designed.

  11.  
    The Quack-O-Ray RULES!

    Fear my deadly flaming ducks!
    • CommentAuthorGolcondio
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     
    I've been supporting M&B since beta 0.632, something like 4 years ago, and it was the best spent 10 euros of my life.
    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Love Ratchet and Clank. Right now I’ve mostly been playing the new UFC game.

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    Anybody else here been keeping track of E3? Nintendo's announcement of a new Metroid game made me cream myself.

    /huge Metroid fan
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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    I watched the L4D2 and AC2 trailers- they were pretty sweet!

    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    I still need to watch the conferences… I should get on that.

    Anyway, playing inFamous now. So far so good.

    • CommentAuthorCodeWizard
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009 edited
     

    Nintendo is pissing me off. Do they ever release new franchises?

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009 edited
     

    The ones they already have easily make up for it.
    And they do release new franchises occasionally, like Professor Layton, Red Steel and No More Heroes.

    Also, is it worth buying a PSP for Riviera, Yggdra Union, Tales of Eternia, Breath of Fire 3, Jeanne d’Arc, Crisis Core, Dissidia, Valhalla Knights and God of War?

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    Nintendo really dropped the ball since the gamecube.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    Yes, it's totally worth it. The PSP still trumps every other handheld out there in the graphics market and the games are not too shabby either. With the new lineup this year, I might just be getting one again too.

    Yeesh, E3 was crazy as hell this year! Did anyone watch Microsoft's keynote? Project Natal looks all sorts of win and I can't wait to get my hands on it! The games were amazing too! L4D2, Crysis 2, the new Halo, CoD:MW2...it was the full works! This year will be totally outstanding with blockbuster titles left and right. It seems as if the companies are trying to kick start sales again in the economic depression.

    All's good I say!
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    I love how most of those games are preexisting franchises.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    Heh yeah, but they're the best of the best! The only two new ones that caught my eye were inFamous and Prototype. The pre-existing ones are still showing why they did so well in the first place so we can't really fault them at this point.
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    Meh, I’m sticking with computer gaming for the most part.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    Same here! I'm playing Crysis at the moment and can see why it's lauded as highly as it is. PC FTW.
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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009 edited
     

    A friend of mine turned the settings on Crysis all the way up… I warned him not to. If you hear explosions coming from California, it was probably him.

    Back to E3… I don’t own a console, so I’m purely PC… but honestly, I’m not sure I want one, anyway. I don’t play a ton of games, just casually, so I don’t really want to shell out the money… I’d rather save the money and get a better computer. PC games are awesome, anyway.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    Well I stick to laptops personally although Crysis doesn't work on my XPS M1330. I have a PC for that.

    I loved World of Goo though. Now THAT was a game!
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    I can’t really afford mainstream games so… indie and open-source games! I actually think the game play is far superior in most indie games, because they are so focused on wasting their time with graphics.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    HAHA! Are you by any chance part of the FSNet OpenSource fans too? I loved FreeSpace 2 to bits and I'm really sad that they didn't do a sequel. I'm a bit hesitant to pick up an OpenSource game though and I already know that you're a die-hard Linux fan Sly.
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    I asked this last forum, but we appear to be bigger now (maybe it just seems that way, I dunno).

    Anyone got a steam account here? I go by A Flying Spork there.
    • CommentAuthorDrAlligator
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009 edited
     
    Hell yeah. DrAlligator there too. Mostly I play L4D and TF2 with a couple friends.

    Celebrating the exams, I bought a Wii. It's mostly the Virtual Console and the 1st party games that attracted me. I've already spent hours just playing Metroid Prime 3, Megaman 9, and all the classics like Paper Mario and Super Metroid I missed out on.
    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    Yup, although I can't remember my SteamID. Last time I even logged on was like....half a year ago?

    And I was a pro CSS player.
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      CommentAuthorRT3
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    The Fire Emblem and Phoenix Wright series are my favorites, though the latest FE entries have been kinda disappointing.

    All the new games Nintendo has tried to put out, like Red Steel (which was pretty good) or Mad World, have had so-so reception. It's the consumers that are creating the suckage, not the designers.
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    It’s the consumers that are creating the suckage, not the designers.

    lol I love this attitude.

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      CommentAuthorRT3
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    if people buy good shit, they'll make good shit. if people buy Shrek and SpongeBob video games before they'll buy Okami...
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    So the onus of producing good games is on the consumers? Or the onus of making sure people can consume things is on the producer?

    lmao

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    CB’s right on the money (pun intended).

    Obviously they make them to get people to buy them, most don’t care if it’s good or not! If it sells, hey, they benefit right?

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    sighs

    If you want good games blame intellectual property rights, or, actually, high production costs—which is the main result of those.

    Console makers have it so that it is illegal to reverse engineer their hardware and software. So they can set the licensing fees and development kits at a ridiculously high price. This in turns makes it so fewer developers can enter the market. Since there are high costs with making a game, developers can take less and less risks. This is the real reason why, for the most part, developers don’t take many risks: they can’t afford to. Easier to go for the masses than a niche of consumers.

    This is also why PC gaming will never die out or why developers take more risks with PC games. It is inexpensive to produce and distribute something on the PC. With a console you have to milk the franchise, so to speak.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Oh good. You just made me feel good about myself for being a PC gamer.

    (We have a Wii, but it’s not like I use it for anything other than tennis).

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Well PC Gaming is an art so to speak so you should feel pretty good.

    I know I do!

    • CommentAuthorGolcondio
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Yeah, and there are just so many things you can do with a joypad anyway…

    But wait until Nintendo comes up with the WiiBrainJack instead of the Wiimote, and it’ll be free Matrix for anyone!

    (incidentally, any of you saw “existenz” by Cronemberg? I found it brilliant, and right on the spot!)

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    Like the WiiMote, it will not be utilized to its full potential.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Even when they do release extra peripherals to make it do what it was supposed to do from the start.

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    No love for the SixAxis?

    • CommentAuthorGolcondio
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    The few times I tried it at a friend’s house, I felt it unwieldy and clumsy… does that answer?

    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Complaining about SixAxis is kind of silly, since there isn’t one game that relies on it at all.

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    I was joking. I actually have a PS3, and Ratchet and Clank Future uses it for a few of its minigames. It works well enough, I guess.

    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    I was just watching the Sony E3 conference, and their new motion controller blew my mind.

    • CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     

    Sony’s controller has potential. Microsoft’s seems really hard to program for, and it also seems like it could easily have lots of inaccuracies— far too many to be acceptable to anybody who’s playing.

    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     

    Yeah, the crazy thing is that the controller Sony showed was just the prototype. And it was still that accurate in the live demo. When the guy started using the bow and arrow with it, I dropped everything I was holding. Hopefully they don’t mess that up, because it looks sweet.

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    Not to mention ridiculously expensive >_>
    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     

    True…

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     

    Man….especially when he demoed the Bow and Arrow thing, did you see him nail that Zombie in the nuts?

    That was all sorts of awesome.

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      CommentAuthorCorsair
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     
    Eh.

    Bitches don't know about Dragon Age.
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     

    Is Dragon Age going to be good? I was disappointed by the demo footage I’ve seen so far, but I hope that’s just because they still have a lot of work to do. The game seems to have changed a lot since its original conception.

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      CommentAuthorCorsair
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2009
     
    It looks damn sweet to me.
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      CommentAuthorAmelie
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2009
     

    At the risk of sounding like a pansy, I would like to say that I immensely enjoyed Super Mario Sunshine. :D

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    I just played The Witcher again and now I’m addicted to it. Bad idea.

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    My favorite game is Okami. It’s made of win. Close behind it is Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages.

    Does anyone have a DSi? I want to get one, but I don’t know if it’s worth it.

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      CommentAuthorAmelie
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2009 edited
     

    Okami! I love that one too! Actually, I’ve only played it at my friend’s house, but it’s just such a spectacular game, I’m going to need to get it for myself. Never played Oracle of Ages, but I do like LoZ games in general.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2009 edited
     

    I preferred Seasons, because it’s red, and Din is attractive.
    Although Link’s Awakening is probably my favourite portable Zelda for the music and emotionalness.

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    I liked Ages because it felt like it was more puzzle-based. And I stink at fighting in those games. XD And it was the one that I had without having to get an emulator.
    I heard that Nintendo was going to do an Oracle of Secrets game, but then they cancelled it. Is that true?

    • CommentAuthorDrAlligator
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2009 edited
     

    My favorite game is Okami. It’s made of win. Close behind it is Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages.

    Okami’s a great game except for one major flaw: You cannot skip cutscenes or the text of cutscenes. And the text scrolls at a snail’s pace. It’s agonizing, I can’t put up with that sort of thing no matter how good the rest of the game is. At least in other games with long unskippable cutscenes you can go make a cup of tea and wait them out – but no, if you want to get through a cutscene in Okami, you have to mash the X button very, very slowly. Last time I played it though, my sister accidentally turned the PS2 off. While I was saving. I lost 20+ hours, however I wouldn’t have minded replaying the game over again – but nothing can make me sit through the anguish of the opening cutscene again.

    Does anyone have a DSi? I want to get one, but I don’t know if it’s worth it.

    At the moment it doesn’t have any killer apps (not any that can’t be played on a regular DS). Personally, I wouldn’t waste my money on it unless they announced a Virtual Console on the system like the Wii’s. I would trade my DS in for a DSi in a flash if I could play Super Mario Land 2 on it – emulators just don’t do it well enough.

    So if you’ve got a DS, stick with it for now. Or if you don’t, just go for the DSi then, you’ll have all the DS library and more to expect. That’s my opinion anyway.

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      CommentAuthorCGilga
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2009
     

    I think Game Informer said there will be a virtual console coming, with GB/GBC/GBA games.

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    Has it been made official though? Nintendo didn’t mention it during E3, did they? You’d think that’d be one of their headlines, considering the popularity of their handhelds. I’m confident a VC will come out for the DSi – it’s a matter of when. Personally, I’m going to wait for the good titles to be released – all the Marios, Metroids, Zeldas, Megamen, etc…

    • CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
     

    Not to mention that in Okami, each time you get an item you have to read its description over, and over, and over again. That’s coupled with the fact that, compared to the length of the game, the number of items is too small. The best game of all time, though, is Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.

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      CommentAuthorAmelie
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2009 edited
     
    Adam, I love Paper Mario too... the only thing I hated was being forced into all those battle scenarios with dumb little Goombas and such. But other than that, it was a very cool game. Still like Super Mario Sunshine better, though. Anyone ever played Super Mario Galaxy, or does anyone have the original Mario games for NES? I do :)
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    Zelda TP was a really good game, I'd say the one involving the most puzzles. The musical score was flawless, and I found myself watching the intro, going back to Ordon, or just sticking around at the file selection just for the music. So nostalgic!
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    TP’s my first 3D Zelda and I’m loving it so far. :)

    Question: Later in the game, can you transform into a wolf at will, or do something else for a similar effect? There’s no limit to the time spent in your twilight form, is there?

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
     

    You can transform into a wolf at will, with no limitations.

    If you enjoy Zelda, action RPGs or video games in general, I can’t recommend Ocarina of Time enough. At the least it’ll help you to understand most of the TP/WW backstory, and the music (Saria’s Song! Song of Storms! Spirit Temple!) is some of the most memorable in any game.

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    With the exception of portable gaming (in which I’ve always stuck with the GB/A/DS), I’ve been a Playstation guy all my life – the Wii’s my first nintendo console. However, I have tried OoT on an emulator. It didn’t really catch my interest – but since playing TP, I’ve chalked it up to the complexity of mapping the N64’s convoluted controller onto a keyboard. When I’m done with TP I’ll probably buy the game on the VC. And in any case, I already know about the split timeline thing.

    On a similar note, does anyone else here watch There Will Be Brawl? It’s a great series based on Super Smash Bros Brawl, and can be found here: http://therewillbebrawl.com/index.php

    You know how Kirby has never before been anything but a cute, cuddly puff ball? He takes a level in badass here.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
     

    I also enjoy TWBB. It’s very original.

    Split timelines aren’t really necessary, though. Everyone, including the current producer, seems to endorse it, but I think it’s possible to fit all of the games into one cohesive timeline.

    eg, MC, OOT, MM, LTTP, LA, TP, LOZ, AOL, OOA/S, WW, PH.
    I think that works. I’m not sure about 4 Swords, but I think it slots in basically anywhere after MC.

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    Not quite, I think it’s stated that all the games except for Link’s Adventure and the Oracles take place before the original Legend of Zelda, so a single timeline would have to be:

    Minnish Cap, Orcarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Twilight Princess*, Four Swords, Link to the Past, Link’s Awakening, Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Legend of Zelda, Adventure of Link, Oracles.

    *You put TP after LTTP, but I’ve read elsewhere that one of the dungeons of OoT (spirit temple I think) shows itself transforming into the Sacred Grove from LttP. Also, Four Swords shows how Ganon acquires the trident he uses in LTTP, so it would slot in before that.

    Personally, I can see why the split timeline is preferred even by nintendo execs: It means they can make a lot more games to fill up both Zelda continuities.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
     

    Something that hasn’t really been mentioned lately is the iPhone and iPod games genre. I don’t know about you lot, but NFS on my 3G looks just as good as the PSP version.

    I wish there’d be a Wipeot but I doubt that will happen. iPhone gaming is looking pretty sweet right now!

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    SMRPG > Paper Mario > PM:ATYD

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    SMRPG never managed to spark my interest as much as its sequels. The SuperStar Saga games on the GBA/DS are some of the most hilarious I’ve ever played.

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    @DrAlligator

    >I have tried OoT on an emulator. It didn’t really catch my interest – but since playing TP, I’ve chalked it up to the complexity of mapping the N64’s convoluted controller onto a keyboard.

    Get a gamepad. You will love it.

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      CommentAuthorDiamonte
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
     

    My video gaming experience is quite limited. I play the Legend of Zelda series, and that’s about it. =D I have Super Mario Galaxy, which is pretty good, then just the party games like Rock Band and stuff.

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    Get a gamepad. You will love it.

    OoT has that same horribly slow text during cutscenes as Okami if I recall. Anyway I already plan to buy it on the Virtual Console when I’m done with Twilight Princess.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    Actually, if you can find/afford it, the Zelda Collector’s Edition Gamecube disc is great value (includes the Legend of Zelda (original), Adventure of Link, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask and a Wind Waker demo).

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    Looking on Amazon, I could in fact get that used for a mere 99p less than a 2000 Wii Points card (which is the cost of two N64 games). But that then would require a gamecube controller, which is an additional £6… Well, I might just get it. But not now. I caved in and bought the Sims 3 today. Collector’s edition! I’ve barely played it but it’s good so far, and for the extra £5 it cost me, I got a 2gig plumbob usb drive, and I’m loving it.

    • CommentAuthorCodeWizard
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    THE SUPERSTAR SAGA ARE NOT SEQUELS.

    BTW The Witcher is now my favorite RPG. It is BOSS.

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    I know, but they follow the similar mechanics and style. If anything, they’re sequels in spirit.

    What’s the Witcher like? I’ve heard of it but know little-to-naught about it.

    • CommentAuthorCodeWizard
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    They most certainly do not feel the same way. It’s like calling paper mario a spiritual sequel. It’s just a pipedream, but it would be cool if they made a real sequel.

    It’s an RPG for the computer developed by a small Polish dev team. It is amazing, and it is non-linear too. Just finished one run through yesterday, now I’m repeating to see how different I can make the story.

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    Witcher, that's a game I want, having lived in Poland for ten years and all. It sounds completely awesome. Gotta see if it comes for intel mac.

    My favorite games are the Halo series, Brothers in Arms series, and Gears of War series. I like games with a decent storyline, and army/war games. All three of those fit into both catagories. :) I also like realistic multiplayer shooters when I have access to them. America's Army and Rainbow six especially.
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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    I think that the main problem with Halo’s storyline is that all humans apart from Master Chief are comically incompetent.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    Durandalski, have you played Hell’s Highway? Now that was an outstanding game. It really deserves far more credit than it received!

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    I haven't finished HH yet, because i have to play 360 games at my cousin's house. I was enjoying the first three levels, but switched to Gears after seeing the trailers. Part of the issue was that my cousin wanted to play too, and Hell's highway doesn't have a splitscreen co-op. So we both played Gears for the first time, together. I think it's the most fun that way.
    I don't like the Hell's Highway health system much, I have to play on the highest availible difficulty to make it challenging. But other than that, it was awesome.

    Halo has its flaws, but it's a good game overall. Massively overhyped for sure. But most of those people don't even care about the single player, just the multiplayer.
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    This is the case in most games where you play a seasoned, exceptional soldier.

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    What about a seasoned, exceptional theoretical physicist?

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    LOL, Gordon Freeman.

    Still refers to a seasoned, exceptional soldier swenson!

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    Since when is he a soldier? Although true, he is surprisingly handy with a crossbow for your average scientist.

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    What about John Freeman?

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    Guh, Frohman all the way.

    • CommentAuthorMegaB
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    Who’s John Freeman? Gordon Freeman is the freelance warrior, alien-declared ‘Free Man’ and a scientist to boot.

    You can’t beat him, right swenson? ;D

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    John Freeman is Gordon Freeman’s brother who was one day an office.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    He got an email from his brother that said that aliens and monsters were attacking his place and axed him for help.

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    John Freeman got his computer shut down and went on the platform to the top of the building where he kept his motorcycle.

    • CommentAuthorDrAlligator
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009 edited
     

    The plants were singing and the birds and the sun were almost down from the top of the sky.

    ...not the next line, no, but it’s one of the best in the series.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     

    zombie goasts leave this place!

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    “It is a good day to do what has to be done by me to help my brother to defeat the enemys!”

    and

    “It is time for me to live up to my family name and face full life consequences!“

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