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    All right, I watched the movie and… Well, I can’t honestly say I expected much better than what I saw. Daniel Radcliffe hasn’t improved, neither has Emma Watson nor Bonny Wright. Here is my response to WW’s rant.

    1) WTF? You’re starting with a closeup of Scrimgeour’s EYES? Also, casting fail, speech fail, and WHAT?

    SO agreed. Possibly the worst way to start a movie EVER.

    3) Um… “Severus, we were friends!” Oh shut up! Overkill! Also, why is Snape’s hair feathery ? Hair & makeup fail. Fail.

    I KNOW! Why would Severus ever be friends with the Muggle Studies teacher? Oh that’s right, HE WOULDN’T.

    6) Um… no introduction to Fleur, or proper intro to Bill? Way to throw it in.

    Yeah, this bothered me too, especially since Bill was unexpectedly attractive…

    7) WTF? WHY ARE THEY ON A MUGGLE STREET, WREAKING HAVOC? WTF? WHAT? NO, MOVIE, NO!

    I have no idea what they were thinking. I mean, I know Muggles are incredibly unobservant, but they would notice a flying motorcycle swooping down on them and almost crashing into their car!

    12) What? We’re skipping Regulus’ story? A good, heartbreaking insight into Kreacher and house elves, and a “good” Slytherin, and we skip it? YOU HAVE TWO MOVIES, GO INTO DETAIL, BITCHES.

    That really bothered me, mostly because Kreacher was just all of a sudden completely willing to do whatever Harry told him to. Very unexplained.

    16) Um… invisibility cloak? It seems to have vanished. Why is Harry skulking around WITHOUT HIS CLOAK?

    I was thinking this during the WHOLE MOVIE. It was so irritating.

    22) Greyback leads the Snatchers, not random scarf guy!

    I think random scarf guy was meant to be Greyback…

    25) The Deathly Hallows sequence. They left out one of the funniest lines “Death gets tired of running up at people, waving his arms and shrieking… sorry, Hermione” and even had a “midnight- it says twilight- oh, twilight is good, even better…” STFU. Also, weird animation- did Tim Burton kidnap the movie or something? I was hoping for live action with Hermione reading it :(

    I personally loved the animation. :D

    27) WHY IS DOBBY GIVING A SPEECH? HE SAYSHARRY POTTER” AND DIES. THAT IS ALL. NO SPEECH.

    I KNOW. HOW DOES ONE GIVE A SPEECH WITH A KNIFE IN ONE’S CHEST??

    34) “I’m not returning as someone else” WHAT? How stupid ARE YOU? HIRE THE ACTORS, DON’T HAVE HARRY AND HERMIONE BE DUMB.

    ^^ My thoughts exactly.

    35) The dancing scene was narmy. Sigh.

    The dancing scene made me smile. :D Watching Radcliffe dance made my day. :D

    36) In the cellar, Ron screamed for Hermione, and it was heartbreaking. WHY DID YOU SKIP THIS, MOVIE?

    This especially bothered me. Even if you don’t support Ron/Hermione (I don’t) that bit was really touching. I would re-read that scene over and over again! Also, what happened to the Cruciatus curse? Knives aren’t nearly as cool.

    That’s that.
    I liked Hermione’s Obliviate scenes; very well done.
    Last thing; I know this happened in the book, but after swimming in a freezing cold lake (and I mean literally freezing), you wouldn’t think Harry would want to talk. Like at all. Realistically he would’ve gotten a cold at least. And Hermione barely hits Ron!
    And very last thing; they put in a shot of McLaggen. Oh God, that made me so happy. :D So did Grindelwald. :D And Draco. :D Except there wasn’t nearly enough of him… Anyway, I’m done.

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      CommentAuthorhappycrab91
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2010 edited
     

    I never know what thread to post in but I think now the movie thread has moved on so I’ll post here.

    I dont think most of your points were too nitpicky, Wisewillow. Some of them I really don’t care about like Hermione’s perfume. I noticed a lot of the tiny little things they missed/changed but that didnt destroy the movie for me. I would’ve preferred them to keep it more similar but for what it was the film was mostly good. The movies are always filled with little oddities and stuff that were changed for no real reason. Or no good reason. They just think theyre making it more dramatic and such, like Dobby’s speech and the muggle studies teacher saying she and Snape were friends. I didn’t have a problem with that because I interpret that more as her really meaning colleagues; part of the same side. What they need to do is have a super duper but reasonable fan to proofread the screenplay. Too late now.

    I assume they’re moving Peter Pettigrew killing himself from the Malfoy’s manor to the battle of Hogwarts because its more dramatic that way. If this truely was the last we saw of Pettigrew, comically falling over, then WTF, Yates and Kloves?

    I too thought the lack of the invisibility cloak was stupid. It sort of devalues the point of it being one of the deathly hallows. Just like the Half-Blood Prince’s potion book’s role in movie 6 was deminished so that it became almost pointless to call the film that and the big reveal that it’s Snape’s book didn’t have enough impact.

    I think random scarf guy was meant to be Greyback…

    Unless they had a casting change, that was not Greyback because he was in movie 6 and he did not look like that. But I dont think I really care much about having some other random dude be the one to snatch the trio.

    This isnt the first time they’ve exagerrated things to make the muggles look like real idiots for not realising magic. But they took it to a whole new extreme by them damaging cars. Again it’s done to make it more dramatic and exciting, but I’ll opt for a less entertaining chase scene over dumbass illogicalness any day. And they probably could have had just as good a chase scene without that stuff.

    14) I miss the frying pan. I don’t object to Dobby here, though the explanation is weak. Also, you never explained that Harry owns Kreacher. Bad movie, bad!

    Frying pan? But yeah the movie had a lot of glossing over facts without explanations but meh to most of them. If I know them then what’s the big deal and to anyone who is watching the movies without reading the books, screw em I say!

    The dancing scene was (I think) unintentionally hilarious, as was a few other things in this movie like emo Ron. If a movie is funny when it’s not meant to be, I think they failed a little bit. Or maybe it was meant to be funny since ever since 6 they’ve tried to make the movies pretty funny.

    I personally loved the animation. :D

    Me too but I think when the camera zoomed in heaps and really showed how weird their heads and such were, I liked the animation less. They should’ve kept it more shadowy and 2D-looking as possible.

    I dont get why they decided to change the sword from being fake to being lost. In the same time it took to say it was lost they couldve said what really happened to it, and it wouldve only taken like 10 more seconds at the manor to have Griphook be told by Harry to lie and say it’s fake and then do so.

    Madungus also wasnt at all what I envisioned him as but I dont know if I’m more wrong or the movie is more wrong.

    I think the taboo will be explained next movie but yeah it was weird how instead of Ron telling them about it then them setting it off accidentally they just randomly bumped into snatchers.

    That’s all I have to say. Wow I do type too much maybe my rants are much longer.

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    The dancing scene was (I think) unintentionally hilarious

    I thought that was meant to be kind of funny. If it wasn’t, then… I don’t know what they were going for. My theater laughed at it.

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    Unless they had a casting change, that was not Greyback because he was in movie 6 and he did not look like that.

    Yeah, they did have a casting change. I dunno why; the earlier Greyback was quite scary, IMO.

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    No, scarf guy was NOT Greyback, I thought I saw him elsewhere in the movie.

    But I happened to think that Hermione did quite a good job in this movie, even if Harry didn’t improve much.

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    But I happened to think that Hermione did quite a good job in this movie, even if Harry didn’t improve much.

    I agree. Hermione seemed a lot better, but Harry seemed about the same as usual.

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    No, scarf guy was NOT Greyback, I thought I saw him elsewhere in the movie.

    According to imdb, he was…

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      CommentAuthorsansafro187
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010 edited
     

    The guy who played Greyback was the same guy who played him in HP6. There was no casting change.

    Also, the dancing scene was clearly supposed to be silly. Harry was trying to defuse some tension/cheer Hermione up a little by goofing around. I didn’t think it was necessary, but it didn’t detract from anything.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010
     

    Greyback in Half Blood Prince.

    Greyback in promotional poster for Deathly Hallows.

    On the far right, our friend Scarfie. They do not look like the same person. Fail, movie.

    As for the dancing scene, it felt really like they were pushing it as a “will they kiss?” moment. In the books, there is NEVER any chance of it- Harry says himself after the locket that “she’s like a sister”. Harry has never thought of her that way, nor has she thought of him that way. That’s why I was so annoyed. Also, um… side-boob was unnecessary. Bad locket, bad!

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      CommentAuthorsansafro187
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010 edited
     

    Were you even paying attention, Willow? The guy with the scarf isn’t supposed to be Greyback(It’s Scabior, for the record). Greyback was in the later snatcher scenes, looking just like he did in HP6.

    I’m not saying you shouldn’t complain about the things you didn’t like, but at least get them right. Otherwise, it just makes it look like you are complaining to complain.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010
     

    Beg pardon, I didn’t know it was Scabior- I thought you meant he was Greyback. I never heard his name. I thought I saw Greyback far in the background once, but wasn’t sure.

    I retract my Greyback complaint on basis of actor, but would like to now ask- why did they make Scabior in charge, rather than Greyback? It was pointless, and we lost some of the menacingness Greyback brought with his creeping on Hermione. Sigh.

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    I retract my Greyback complaint on basis of actor, but would like to now ask- why did they make Scabior in charge, rather than Greyback? It was pointless, and we lost some of the menacingness Greyback brought with his creeping on Hermione. Sigh.

    Could be any number of reasons besides just changing it for funsies. Greyback only appearing in some of the snatcher scenes suggests schedule conflicts to me, although there’s a chance they just decided he wasn’t good enough at acting or something and thought he was better of standing there and getting choked by a belt or whatever it was Bellatrix had around his neck. The logistics of movie-making are complicated and difficult to manage, especially compared to the singular control an author gets when writing a novel.

    I just think you have unrealistic expectations of faithfulness to the book. There’s no way any HP movie after the first three or so was going to be a visual reproduction of their respective books, because they are movies, not books. Pacing and things like that are a lot more crucial in film, and following the books to the absolute letter probably wouldn’t be very watchable. The most you can hope for from an adaptation is that it remains true to the spirit of whatever it’s adapting. You can take issue with a lot of fringe details they made unnecessary changes to(many of which I’d probably agree with), but reading some of your gripes, I’m not sure you’d have liked anything that wasn’t a direct reproduction.

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    it felt really like they were pushing it as a “will they kiss?

    I just saw it as more of a “come on, Hermione, smile” kind of thing. He was acting like a dork to cheer her up because Ron left. I didn’t really see it as trying to look romantic or anything.

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    ^^ That’s what I always saw it as too. Harry and Hermione never had that kind of chemistry anyway, even in the movies.

    The most you can hope for from an adaptation is that it remains true to the spirit of whatever it’s adapting.

    True. I think this one actually did a fairly good job, in that respect.

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    I just saw it as more of a “come on, Hermione, smile” kind of thing.

    Same. I think I’ve already mentioned that I enjoyed the dancing scene…

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      CommentAuthorPearl
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010
     

    Though I didn’t watch HP7 part 1 (because I disapprove of the HP movies) I aggree with your points, Willow, on principle.
    It seems to me that it is often the small details that ruin the movies the most, because it is often the details and little moments that affect me the most.
    I understand where you’re you’re coming from because it was that sort of “nitpicky” stuff that ruined the first and second movies for me, and those were even the most like the books of all the movies, from what I understand. I gave up on them after the second one.

    The other problem is that I go into the movies expecting them to be made by superfans for superfans, which they definately are not.

    Also, I CANNOT BELIEVE that they did not include Ron yelling for Hermione.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2010
     

    Also, I CANNOT BELIEVE that they did not include Ron yelling for Hermione.

    I know, that was so heartbreaking! :(

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    The other problem is that I go into the movies expecting them to be made by superfans for superfans, which they definately are not.

    Would you really want an HP film made by die-hard fans? The last thing we need is a fanfic put on screen.

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    The last thing we need is a fanfic put on screen.

    Heh heh.

    It’s weird because I’m usually really nitpicky about things, but not so much with the Potter films. I have no idea why that is. I still think they’re more faithful than a lot of adaptations out there.

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    I’m telling you, if they tried to reproduce the books exactly, it would just result in a 5+ hour pile of crap for each one.

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    I still think they’re more faithful than a lot of adaptations out there.

    Yeah, at least the HP films didn’t get treated like Percy Jackson or the Dark Is Rising did.

    And since everybody seems so pissed, here’s something to calm everybody’s mood.

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    I’m telling you, if they tried to reproduce the books exactly, it would just result in a 5+ hour pile of crap for each one.

    Somehow I agree with you there.
    Sure, put in all the details and so on…. but something about it just won’t be right.

    Yeah, at least the HP films didn’t get treated like Percy Jackson or the Dark Is Rising did.

    I see we have a Percy Jackson thread just for that one.

    @video – What is this I don’t even….
    One commenter said: “Oh no, Harry, it’s a Dementor!”
    Lol.

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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     

    If they were 100% faithful to the books I wouldn’t watch the movies.

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    That’s what they tried to do with the first and second, and it didn’t turn out all that well. What works in a book doesn’t necessarily work in a cinematic format.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     

    That’s what they tried to do with the first and second, and it didn’t turn out all that well.

    :/

    I love the first two deeply.

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      CommentAuthorThea
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     

    I haven’t seen the movie (although, volunteering for the theater I’ve seen the trailer far too many times) but I remember an interesting article about the later books, and tangentially, why Voldemort doesn’t as a villain in any more depth than a magical Hitler. Sort of, at least: it’s been a long time since I read the article and don’t remember much about it. What I do remember about it, and what I liked was how it pointed out that the world building in the earlier books are excellent for a standard child-focused fantasy adventure story, but can’t support the depth of an adult work as it is supposed to in the later books.

    I’ve read quite a lot of interesting analysis of the later books especially, both for and against, but only read the forth book myself. And then the fifth book, I think, took too long for me to keep up my interest and there was so much media attention—not to mention the commercialization—that I just got bored and disinterested. It makes me sad, because I loved the first three books so much (less so the fourth) and could practically quote them for a couple years. I miss that enthusiasm.

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    I like the later books better. I love all of them, but I like the later ones more.

    I also prefer the later movies, except the fifth one. The fifth one pissed me off. It cut my favorite scene and got rid of all the Quidditch stuff. However, I like it more now than I did originally, and once I cooled down about it, I was able to realize its entertainment value. I still like the first couple of movies too, though.

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    I love the first two deeply.

    I don’t know, to me it was a little cut + paste exactly from the book, and what was interesting there wasn’t necessarily as interesting in a movie format. Maybe I’m just being picky. It’s not a bad movie, it just kind of plodded along and didn’t have the magic of the books.

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    Yeah the first 2 movies did kind of bore me and thats probably why. Book 2 did add that whole getting chased by the train and nearly falling out of the car thing so that was the first stepping stones to adding/changing things to make it more epic for the theatre. I think Snow White Queen is correct. BUT I still think the later movies could have standed to keep some more things the same and keep some more details without losing the movie magic. Theyre still riddled with stupid uneccessary decisions.

    Movie 5 I thought they handled pretty darn well, except for mostly Dudley’s freaking weird teasing voice/face at the start (I hope that was the director’s choice), the lack of focus on Harry’s reoccuring dreams, and the Room of Requirement having a hole blasted into it. Oh and the stupidity of them flying around on broom sticks where muggles could easily see them. Thats all I can remember right now, but changing those things would not ruin the movie magic. Well the Dudley thing really doesnt matter that much. Quidditch wasnt very necessary and they made up for it with the quidditch in 6, and I guess neither was the hospital even though we missed out on Neville’s parents.

    Platypus, what is your favorite scene they cut?

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      CommentAuthorPearl
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010
     

    The worlds biggest Harry Potter fan

    You might be right about now wanting the movies to be made by die-hard fans.

    I’ve mostly come to accept the fact that I will never like the movies, and that’s okay. The books are enough.

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    My favorite scene, for some reason, was when Fred and George leave Hogwarts, and they say, “Accio brooms!” Then their broom bust through a wall or something, or they at least break the chain that was holding them. Then they leave. I just remember reading that scene and thinking how cool that would look in the movie. Then they fly off with a fireworks show instead, which was cool, but I would have preferred the way the book did it. That’s really the only reason Quidditch getting cut bugged me. Without Quidditch, their brooms aren’t locked away, so that scene wouldn’t work. Also, the longest book shouldn’t be the shortest movie, which makes the cuts more irritating. Anyway, after seeing the fifth one a few more times, I like it now.

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      CommentAuthorhappycrab91
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2010 edited
     

    Maybe she could have confiscated their brooms because they were flying around on them inside or something. But yeah that scene would’ve been awesome.

    Oooookay to that world’s biggest Potter fan… Is it just me or does he almost look like Rupert Grint? At first I thought it was possible that Grint was having a bit of a joke. Like how Radcliff loves a good joke . Sorry about the location of the video its the first one I could find.

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    The fifth one pissed me off. It cut my favorite scene and got rid of all the Quidditch stuff.

    ^This.

    Dudley’s freaking weird teasing voice/face at the start (I hope that was the director’s choice)

    It’s kinda funny to see a child actor hamming it up. “DOOOOOOON’T KILL CEDRIC!”
    And then (in a really funny tone): “Who’s Cedric – your boyfriend?
    Hehehe.

    Room of Requirement having a hole blasted into it.

    Which was incredibly stupid. The whole point of the Room was defeated in the movie. What the hell?

    Oh and the stupidity of them flying around on broom sticks where muggles could easily see them.

    Yeah, let’s fly a spitting distance away from a big-ass cruiser full of muggles…. It’ll totally work.

    @NP – I’ve also watched it a couple of times, but I still don’t like it. Sorry…:-)

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    I’ve also watched it a couple of times, but I still don’t like it. Sorry…:-)

    Yeah, it’s still my least favorite of the movies, but I am able to enjoy it now instead of just being mad at it.

    And also: Harry Potter 8-Bit Interactive Game.

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      CommentAuthorApep
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2010
     

    I finally got to see the new movie last night. Overall, I enjoyed it – if nothing else, it made the endless camping scenes bearable. Yes, they cut stuff out, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as with the last one, where they cut out a major sub-plot that explained the reason for the sub-title. The only thing I had an issue with was the last scene, mainly because all I could think was “By the power of Greyskull… I HAVE THE POWER!”

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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2010
     

    Yep, if the movie was 100% faithful I think I would have died of boredom from the camping scenes. That part of the book seemed to last forever.

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    When I reread the book for the first time not too long ago the camping scenes somehow did bore me as much maybe because I appreciated the book as a whole more and there was some interesting stuff I had forgotten.

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    I don’t think the camping chapters bored me when I read it, but I’m not positive. Once I really like a book/series, it becomes increasingly harder for it to bore me. But if I’ve just started a book/series, I’m very easily bored with it.

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    In my experience, the camping scenes aren’t nearly as bad on the reread. They just seem long the first time, when you expect it to be a pitstop instead of an actual segment of the book.

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      CommentAuthorApep
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2010
     

    Well, part of my problem was that I had the audiobook version, so I couldn’t gloss over the boring bits. I don’t care if you have a voice like liquid chocolate mixed with gold, I’ll get tired of listening to you read from the encyclopedia.

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    @ sansafro: This is very true. Ironically, the movie actually made those parts in the book seem more interesting on the reread.

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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2010
     

    Seriously? TR took the video directly off Funny or Die?

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    I just posted that but it was hosted on another website. Thats the site I first saw it on but when I tried to look for it again I could only find this very pink one which I linked to.

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    The worlds biggest Harry Potter fan

    I finally watched it, and I am a little afraid of that guy.

    I thought all the HP fans would appreciate this.

    Daniel Radcliffe Harry Potter is awesome.

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    So, Afshan Azad (AKA Padma Patil) was assaulted by her brother for dating a non-Muslim. I saw it on the news when I was in the waiting room for my dentist appointment. It’s disgusting.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2010
     

    ...Hulk smash? That’s absolutely appalling. It doesn’t say if her father was sentenced for anything… I hope she has a safe place to stay where her family can’t hurt her.

    As a side note, I’m slightly surprised- for some reason I assumed the actresses who played Padma and Parvati were both Hindu (as the character names are Hindu goddesses).

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    That’s absolutely appalling. It doesn’t say if her father was sentenced for anything.

    It is, and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t sentenced.

    Another thing I just found out. The two actresses are not even related. I thought they were really twins for some reason. I thought I had read that they wanted to find twins more than they wanted to find good actresses, or maybe they were just wanting two people who looked alike.

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    I hope she has a safe place to stay where her family can’t hurt her.

    Me too.

    It is, and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t sentenced

    And now he’s going to get away with being an intolerant dick?

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    ^^ An intolerant, homicidal dick. I’m not sure if it was in that article, but I read she is staying with friends, so hopefully her family can’t get to her.

    I also read that both the brother and the father were found not guilty in threatening to kill her. She was afraid to testify after the threats by her dad, but her brother pleaded guilty to assault anyway. I’m pretty sure he even admitted why he assaulted her, but I think he’s out on bail.

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    Things like this really piss me off.
    Poor girl.

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    Unrelated to previous conversation and not sad/angry mob-inducing:

    They’re still planning on releasing HP 7 part 2 in 3D. :/

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    Someone should send her father and brother to the Museum of Tolerance. Now that I’m marathoning South Park I’m relating it to everything. But yeah that news is very sigh and I’m glad she’s in a safe place.

    And NNNOOOOOO!!! I thought them deciding not to release Part 1 in 3D was them coming to their senses that 3D is a crappy pointless gimmick (most of the time), makes the film too dark and is especially bad when you convert it into 3D rather than film it in 3D. But no they’re just as bad as all the other people jumping on the band wagon. It’s probably because they’re bored waiting to release Part 2 and thought “eh we have the time”.

    I really dont care about 3D it does absolutely nothing for me, yet I really want a 3DS…. and when I tried a 3D TV in stores it looked way better than in the cinemas because the digital glasses didnt darken anything and it just looked sharper, but the cost of it and each individual glasses isnt worth it.

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    What I read was that they didn’t do part 1 in 3D because they didn’t have time to do it. 3D is good when the movie is some silly action or horror movie that is only enjoyable because of the 3D gimmick. I too want a 3DS. You don’t even need glasses.

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      CommentAuthorApep
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2010
     

    Evidence that maybe you shouldn’t think too critically about Harry Potter.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2010
     

    ...I watched that video. Their grasp of the series is pathetic, and none of their complaints make sense. Also, Slytherin house DOES NOT HAVE A TOWER.

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    Parts of it were funny, and the thing about not learning math and stuff was valid, as we’ve already talked about on here. But most of it wasn’t really. Not all Slytherins are evil. Snape, anyone? Also, I think that Muggle leaders actually do know about the wizarding world, and they share information with them. They didn’t tell the Muggles because it would cause mass hysteria, kind of like we probably wouldn’t be informed if aliens showed up if the government could help it. They couldn’t just nuke Voldemort. He has horcruxes. Plus, we can’t even kill all our own non-magic bad guys. How are we supposed to kill one of the most powerful wizards ever? They saved Harry to do it because there was a prophecy about him and Voldemort, and he’s the only person to ever survive the killing curse.

    Also, Slytherin house DOES NOT HAVE A TOWER.

    This.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2010
     

    Oh, and re: nuking Voldemort.

    THAT WOULD ALSO NUKE THE REST OF GREAT BRITAIN.

    >:(

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    THAT WOULD ALSO NUKE THE REST OF GREAT BRITAIN.

    I didn’t even think of that. Good job.

    ...To be fair to the video, it wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. However, I’m sure there are actual plot holes they could have found to make fun of instead of showing that they don’t understand the story and plot lines.

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    To be fair to the video, it wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.

    I can’t open said video..:-(
    What do they say in it (apart from Slytherin having a tower all of a sudden)?

    However, I’m sure there are actual plot holes they could have found to make fun of instead of showing that they don’t understand the story and plot lines.

    Yeah, like Voldy’s genre blindness.
    He should’ve read the Evil Overlord List.

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    Some of what they said:
    Throughout, a girl is going through the books highlighting things that point to Dumbledore being gay.
    All Slythrerins are evil and should be killed as soon as they are sorted into Slytherin.
    25% of Hogwarts is evil (Slytherin).
    They should blow up Slytherin tower.
    The kids don’t learn math, science, etc.
    They have a class devoted to the dark arts. They ignore that it’s defense against the dark arts.
    Voldemort lives on the back of some dude’s head, so he should be easy to find/kill.
    The magic community should tell the Muggles about Voldemort, so we can nuke him.
    Instead of blowing up Voldemort, they obtained a toddler (Harry) to defeat him.
    That’s all I remember at the moment.

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      CommentAuthorApep
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2010 edited
     

    Wow, didn’t think that video would spark this much conversation. This was posted on Cracked.com, so everything should be taken with a heavy dose of salt. Heavy in this case meaning several pounds.

    Honestly, there are only a few legitimate points made:

    1) Why don’t they ever use the Time Turner after book 3? Seriously? Rowling used things mentioned in book 1 in book 7, so why did that plot device have to sent into the Phantom Zone?

    2) While all Slytherins might not be evil, I’m pretty sure that it is mentioned that evil witches/wizards trained at Hogwarts almost exclusively were members of Slytherin house. Being a Slytherin is kinda like being a German in the 1930s – they might not be bad, but you should keep your eye on them just in case.

    3) The academic issues, which have been discussed already.

    Everything else is mostly comic hyperbole. The guy proposing using nukes on Voldemort also said that we can fire them from space, with iPhones. This is not the kind of statement you should be taking seriously.

    Also: Willow, of all the things they say, you choose to zero in on the fact that they think Slytherin House is located in a tower? Really? (although, now that I’m thinking about it, the fact that they live in a dungeon probably doesn’t encourage them not to be evil)

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      CommentAuthorDiamonte
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2010 edited
     

    I totally agree with you, Apep. People are honing in on the wrong things instead of looking at the good points that they do bring up.

    About the time-turners, though… they all got destroyed at the end of Book 5. But why didn’t the Order get a hold of one (find some excuse, like Hermione wanting to load up on classes again, etc.) then send back one person to kill Voldemort when he was a child? Yes, being that person would suck and it could have major effects on history that would be unpredictable, but so many lives would be saved because of it – all the people in the first war, including Harry’s parents, for starters.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2010
     

    But then no one would have gotten the time turner. In JKR, time-turners work in that you always did it. If you change something too much, it won’t work. Harry and Hermione could save Sirius because it wasn’t going to change the timeline except for a one hour time span, in one area. Trying to go back fifty years? That would probably have catastrophic effects. Also, we’re never told how far back a time turner can go. Also, whoever went back in time would have to live in that time. Time turners only go back, not forwards (as far as we know).

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    2) While all Slytherins might not be evil, I’m pretty sure that it is mentioned that evil witches/wizards trained at Hogwarts almost exclusively were members of Slytherin house. Being a Slytherin is kinda like being a German in the 1930s – they might not be bad, but you should keep your eye on them just in case.

    Best analogy I’ve seen in quite a while.

    they all got destroyed at the end of Book 5

    Forgot about that one.

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      CommentAuthorSharkonian
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
     
    So, my sister and I were talking about the books as we had just begun to read them. We were laughing because in every single book (past the fifth book, I'm not sure) whenever they're on the hogwarts express, Malfoy always finds their compartment with ease and he's always there with a snide remark or something.

    So, what does he do? Open the door of every compartment to look for Harry? ;'D

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
     

    The train compartments have glass in the doors, so you can look through. This is shown in one book (I forget which), when Ron slams the door shut so hard the glass breaks. Hermione then has to repair it.

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      CommentAuthorElanor
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
     

    The train compartments have glass in the doors, so you can look through. This is shown in one book (I forget which), when Ron slams the door shut so hard the glass breaks. Hermione then has to repair it.

    There’s also that scene where Lavender breathes on the door and draws a heart with her and Ron’s initials in it.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
     

    You are such a dork.

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    The gripe about Time Turners makes no sense if you were actually paying attention to the time travel rules. You can’t just go back and change stuff, or else it would’ve been changed the first time through. If somebody had gone back in time and killed Voldemort, Voldemort would’ve already been dead, since the future version of said somebody would’ve killed him the first time.

    In Book 3, future Harry/Hermione don’t change anything. They just enable what already happened.

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      CommentAuthorSharkonian
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
     
    That ruins my good day. I was really pleased with that thought.
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJan 12th 2011
     

    The movie also failed to show Phineas Nigellus. How’s Snape supposed to know where Harry and Hermione are? Telepathy?

  45.  

    Legilimency combined with facebook….;-)

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    February 15 is now To Write Mudblood on Her Arms Day.

    I’m doing it just because.

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    I actually thought this out (though Rowling probably could have done to shown it in the first place as well)

    1) Why don’t they ever use the Time Turner after book 3? Seriously? Rowling used things mentioned in book 1 in book 7, so why did that plot device have to sent into the Phantom Zone?

    Ok, let’s play that out a moment.

    #Harry goes back in time to kill Voldemort as a baby. #Voldemort decides to go back further and kill Harry’s parents before Harry is born. #So Harry goes back to kill Voldemort’s grandparents. #So Voldemort goes back to kill Harry’s great-grandparents. #repeat ad infinitium UNTIL

    1) Harry and Voldemort reach a common ancestor – such that killing him/her kills them both.
    2) They go back far enough to the universal common ancestor (or near enough) such that kill he/she/it would kill EVERYONE.

    When you think about it, not using time travel in a war must work exactly nukes in our world: Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). Thus, the answer to why Voldemort & Harry & others don’t use time turners is the same reason why the US and USSR didn’t go using city destroying bombs willy nilly.

    • CommentAuthorWiseWillow
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2011
     

    Also, all the time turners get smashed at the end of OOTP. Let’s assume that Voldemort might have wanted a time turner. He returns end of GOF. One year later, the time turners are destroyed. During that year he spends all his time trying to get into the department of mysteries to obtain the prophecy. Even if he did have people trying to also get a time turner, I’m going to assume Dumbledore has enough connections to make sure they aren’t currently loaning any to students, and the Ministry probably vigorously protects those that are in safekeeping.

  49.  

    Wanna know how much of a Harry Potter geek I am? Someone’s Facebook status was something like, “Forget the Super Bowl, give me the World Cup!” I liked it because I thought it was talking about Quidditch. It took me about thirty minutes before I realized she meant soccer…. Now I’m glad I didn’t comment about something to do with Quidditch.

    • CommentAuthorDanielle
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2011
     

    Wanna know how much of a Harry Potter geek I am? Someone’s Facebook status was something like, “Forget the Super Bowl, give me the World Cup!” I liked it because I thought it was talking about Quidditch. It took me about thirty minutes before I realized she meant soccer…. Now I’m glad I didn’t comment about something to do with Quidditch.

    Today, when the two teams came out on the field, I saw their colors and went “Hey! It’s Slytherin vs. Hufflepuff!” Never mind that Slytherin wears green and silver instead of green and gold….or that they play in robes. I was still excited.

    • CommentAuthorNo One
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2011
     

    Green and gold? What teams?

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2011
     

    Now I’m glad I didn’t comment about something to do with Quidditch.

    You should have done, NP. Everything’s better with a Harry Potter reference.

    • CommentAuthorDanielle
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2011
     

    Green and gold? What teams?

    Packers vs. Steelers. I cheered for the Packers partly because I prefer Slytherin to Hufflepuff (yay Snape) and partly because the Steelers beat my home state’s team last year due to a crappy call from the ref. So woohoo, Slytherin won! :P

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    Everything’s better with a Harry Potter reference.

    Now there’s the silver lining I was hoping for.

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    You guys have to write “mudblood” on your arms tomorrow. It’s one of those silly Facebook things, but it’s Harry Potter, so I’m doing it, and you should too. Because it’s Harry Potter.

    • CommentAuthorDanielle
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2011
     

    You guys have to write “mudblood” on your arms tomorrow. It’s one of those silly Facebook things, but it’s Harry Potter, so I’m doing it, and you should too. Because it’s Harry Potter.

    Maybe I’ll do it in eyeliner pencil, so it’ll wash off fairly easily. I’m reasonably certain my parents know I’ve read the books, but that doesn’t mean they have to approve. And I’d rather not have to explain why I have “Mudblood” written on my arm.

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      CommentAuthorTakuGifian
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2011 edited
     

    Sigh.

    Really, world?

    “No ears or nose” does not a Voldemort impersonation make. Primarily because Voldemort HAS EARS.

    THEY’RE PLAINLY VISIBLE IN THE PHOTO THAT ARTICLE USED AS A COMPARISON SHOT.

    sigh.

    Besides, I’d say he looks more like a certain twitchy ferret…

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    A warning, the picture is of a cat with no nose or ears. Poor kitty. :(

    I thought it was going to be someone trying to photoshop a Voldemort.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2011
     
  53.  

    I just hope the home doesn’t have any snakes as pets.

    (too soon?)

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    I’m glad he got a home. If a homeless animal is in the news, it tends to get adopted pretty quickly. I didn’t look at the whole article because the picture made me sad. I did look far enough to see it was because of skin cancer rather than abuse, which is what I thought when I first saw it.

    As for the Voldemort thing, since cat and human ears look very different and are on different parts of the head, the lack of ears does add to the resemblance, but it’s not “uncanny.”

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2011
     

    Skin cancer in cats isn’t uncommon. One of the strays around us has had part of his ear cut off by the local cat charity because they thought he might have skin cancer.

    the lack of ears does add to the resemblance, but it’s not “uncanny.”

    To be honest, I think the Voldemort comparison was just a way of getting a difficult-to-rehome cat into the news. The high media awareness will encourage people to adopt.

    • CommentAuthorDanielle
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2011
     

    I thought the cat was kinda cute…..

  55.  

    Skin cancer in cats isn’t uncommon.

    I know. White, outdoor cats get it a lot. My aunt’s two white cats got it. I only thought of abuse because we have these depressing ASPCA commercials that are on all the time. They show pictures of cats and dogs similar to that one that they rescued from abusive homes. I agree that the comparison was probably to draw attention to his situation. I would adopt an animal like that if I had the opportunity to help it.

    I think he’s kind of cute too, actually. I overreacted a little because that wasn’t what I was expecting at all when I clicked the link.

    On an HP related note, I started watching A Very Potter Sequel.

  56.  

    When is the due date for DH part 2, anyone?

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    July something or another, I believe?

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    July 15.

  59.  

    Hey! All you can take me to the movie for my birthday. XD

    j/k, I’d rather go to the Green Lantern movie.

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    I’d rather go to the Green Lantern movie.

    Seconded.
    Also, the reason I asked was because of my prediction of how they’re going to make Ron & Hermione hook up, since in the movieverse, SPEW does not exist and Dobby and Kreacher are the only house-elves ever.

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    I went to the Harry Potter world place in Orlando, Florida. It was amazing. :D There were a lot of little shops, and they were really cute, and pretty realistic. Also: the butterbeer tasted exactly like what I thought it would: liquid butterscotch.