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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    Hello, everyone. I have now opened a Harry Potter thread since we must have one, you know. I also have some burning questions about HP in any event. Other than that, while I try to remember them, discuss.
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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    Book 3 FTW.
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    Ok, here we go:
    I ran this question by the DEM forums earlier but let's see what you think:
    Why doesn't Sirius have a Dark Mark if he is, as everyone in the wizarding world supposed, Voldemort's right-hand man?! You don't suppose they would just chuck someone into the heaviest-guarded cell in Azzy without even checking them for the Mark, would they?
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    The only reason I can think of is because the mark faded and became stronger due to Voldy’s power. That, and the ministry was not the pinicle of good judgement.

    I want to know how Voldy died at the last book. Still infuriates me >:/

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    I also want to know why anyone would trust a man whose Animagus is a rat with their lives. Animaguses are reflections of your personalities, after all.

    Additionally, on the Anim. topic, I'd like to add that Prof. McGonagall is my favorite character. Such steel! Such un-called-for sentimentality! And- "Potter will become Auror even if I have to coach him nightly!"
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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Why would you even choose to be a rat as an animagus? Really? A rat?

    Me, I would have chosen a bird (of prey). Or a cat. Or an ELEPHANT. RAWR. ELEPHANT SMASH.

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    I would be a cat. A BLACK cat. Mwaha.

    Yeah my favorite is book 3 as well.
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    I'm not sure if they get to choose, is what I'm saying. I read on some corner of Mugglenet that it just reflects their personality.
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    Rats get a bad rap. Now, if he was a platypus, then I wouldn’t trust him :D

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009 edited
     
    Haha. If it was me, I'd be a medium-sized animals; are they allowed to be magical creatures such as dragons or nifflers? If so, I'd be a niffler and find a lot of gold for myself.

    Additionally, what do you lot think of the Dumbledore Is Gay business? I think personally, that though JKR may have wrote the books, and yes, she's the God of the Wizarding World and what She Says Goes but I feel like that statement is just plain irrelevant. If she didn't spend three words in any of the seven books, just to mention that Dumbledore is gay, she hasn't got any proof to back it up. I think, and yeah, I'm probably wrong or categorizing or jumping to conclusions, but she was just trying to make Harry Potter fit into current hot topics- Gay Rights, for one. But Harry Potter isn't about that stuff. It's just in an entirely different universe.

    Not to mention, how come none of the other Hoggy students are gay? How come none of them have any orientation but straight?

    So I'm sorry but Ms. Rowling should really just drop the topic. It isn't working.

    EDIT: She should have never brought it up. That's what I mean to say.
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    I always thought Dumbly and Mcgonigal were togeather. Then again, I have zero gay-dar, so they could have been making out in his office and I wouldn’t have caught on :D

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    Right. Also, its a little odd whenever a student of African descent is in the books, and one of their only describing adjectives are 'Black' (capitalized), often accompanied by 'Tall'. Ho-hum.

    Hey, did anyone ever notice? When everyone was dining together, the first night Harry was at OthP HQ, there were thirteen people in the room, right? And then Sirius was the first to get up. And in the third book, Trelawney talks about how the first person when 13 gather to dine will be the first to die. Then, ***spoiler*** Sirius dies.
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    I never notice things like that. :D
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    Isn't it neat though?
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    It is! Any other nuggets that you know of?

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    I think so... how about how in the fifth book, when they're cleaning out HQ for everyone, they discover a small locket that none of them could open? In one of the drawing room cupboards?
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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    That was probably Voldemorte's locket.
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    Exactly. I remembered that part after I finished the series.
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    Was I the only one who wanted Harry to die?
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    I also did :/

    Although, I couldn’t help but laugh at the tiny evil baby in the corner during his whole ‘fake death scene’ that they were ignoring.

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    Heh, same here. I also thought the 19 years later epilogue thingy was unnecessary; it destroyed my idea of what was going to happen. Also, Harry/Ginny REALLY bugged me. A monster in your stomach? Tsk tsk JKR...
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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    If she didn’t spend three words in any of the seven books, just to mention that Dumbledore is gay, she hasn’t got any proof to back it up.

    Er, not to point out the obvious, but she doesn’t need to. He’s her character. She would know.

    Otherwise, I don’t see why everyone went OHNOES at that, it was pretty darn obvious in my opinion. She just made it canon for fanfic writers. Which is interesting enough in itself. Besides, Dumbledore’s sexual orientation wasn’t important in the series, it was about Harry.

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      CommentAuthorOverlordDan
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009 edited
     

    Unless of course that you think a man with a special interest in a young boy as he grows up, watching him as he sleeps, and ensuring that he’s the only one in the room with the knocked-out boy being attracted to men colors your outlook on the man.

    (I don’t think this, but I will not pass up an opportunity to make a character seem far creepier than they really are :D)

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    I'm guessing you have a field day with Edward Cullen and Eragon Sladeshayer, then.
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    Eragon: So much :D
    Harry Potter: Even More (change Wand to Wang. Hours of fun :D)
    Twilight: My mom got me the book for christmas, and my sister pounced on it like a wild cat. I have not seen it since, and am a bit glad of that :D

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Wait, your mom got you Twilight? Talk about a backhanded insult. :P

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      CommentAuthorApep
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     
    I'm not entirely sure you can have a backhanded insult (wouldn't that come around as a complement?), but still, ouch.
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Maybe it’s because his mom thought he was a nice sensitive guy.

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    I always got the impression that creepy stalker like guys read Twilight... I thought they could relate to Edward...
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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    When I saw other people watching Twilight, they were mostly young children, teenage girls and their associates, and creepy stalker guys.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Young children? Good grief.

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    I shudder to think of the new generation growing up on this...
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    The divorce rate will skyrocket after a generation of young women realize they were lied to—no, abusive guys are not good hubbies.

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    Anyone read 13 reasons why? It’s about this girl who committed suicide; it’s basically a diary that tells the reader why she committed suicide. Being stalked was on the list, so…

    • CommentAuthorCodeWizard
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009 edited
     

    Dumbledore was a cyborg from the planet Or. That makes about as much sense as saying he’s gay.

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    ^I agree.
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     
    VampireLover Said "Heh, same here. I also thought the 19 years later epilogue thingy was unnecessary; it destroyed my idea of what was going to happen. Also, Harry/Ginny REALLY bugged me. A monster in your stomach? Tsk tsk JKR... "

    I'm one of those readers strongly against tying up the endings into little neat packages of enjoyment. I like to be left to ponder a little, maybe draw my own conclusions with the knowledge that there's no evidence to disprove them.

    Also, Ginny is like a little sister to me (so is Hermione, by the way). I find it rather hard to read the scenes where Ginny gives Harry a birthday present- the kiss. I was glad Ron interrupted that. Maybe I'm protective but she's this cute little girl who put her elbow in the butter dish when meeting the biggest celebrity of the wizarding world. C'mon now. She's always young in my head. (And, Dean Thomas?! And that other random dude whose name I don't even remember?!) Oddly enough, I had no problem with her going to the Yule Ball with Neville but it's not as though anything serious was going to happen.

    Plus, I don't like reading the bits where Hermione attends the Yule Ball either. She's fourteen at the time, with an eighteen year old guy. I don't know. It's like me dating a kid in the fifth grade. I don't like it. Krum?! Seriously?! I never liked that at all. (And the movie Yule Ball was horrendous- Hermione's at heart a smart alec, not some fashionista-who-reads-in-her-spare-time-or-whatnot).

    I don't know but I don't like it.

    And Harry and Ginny grown up?! That was just terrible. Not only did I not like how JKR gives this amazing, ultra-colour magical ending but its a little uncomfortable. (And Albus-Severus... Hmmph!)

    Jeni wrote "Besides, Dumbledore’s sexual orientation wasn’t important in the series, it was about Harry."

    Right. That's why I think she doesn't need to say anything about his orientation. It doesn't matter. Either way. No big deal. By saying it specifically, she makes it seem like it must've played a big role. But that's not the sort of book she was writing. It didn't.

    Vampire also says, "I always got the impression that creepy stalker like guys read Twilight... I thought they could relate to Edward... "

    Yeah. I know this guy who read it because he thought since everyone was talking about it, it must be good. Today we discussed the movies which he seemed to want to watch (search me!!!) and I said it was a waste of time and I was shouted down by two girls on either side of me.

    Hey, who wrote 13 Reasons? It sounds interesting. I will look into it.
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    My mom got it for me because it was a popular book. Now, my grandma got me the book “13 Ways Men Screw Up Their Lives”, so take that as you will…

    :D

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      CommentAuthorArtimaeus
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    The epilogue irked the hell out of me. It was just to cutesy and happy. “Awwwww…. All of the cannon couples are still together!!! Oh, and they had kids!!! And they NAMED them after people! And they’re still going to hogwarts! Awwwww….”

    vomit.

    If she had to include an epilogue, I think it would have been best placed a few months after Voldemort’s defeat, and should have shown the surviving characters working to rebuild Hogwarts and the wizarding world. The mood would be bittersweet, but hopeful. Much was destroyed, but if we work together, a better world can rise from its ashes. She could have shown the Malfoys and various magical creatures cooperating with the good guys. Tying up the romantic loose ends would have been easy. And, most importantly, it wouldn’t have been so damn cheesy!

    I don’t know. It’s been a while since I read Deathly Hallows, but I think knowing Dumbledore’s sexual orientation adds a lot of depth to his back story; his history with Grindelwald makes more sense once you realize that his feelings towards his partner probably were not strictly, shall we say, platonic. It’s just a character trait; it isn’t all that relevant to the story, but it gives the character a little more depth. And frankly, I think it’s a shame that it’s automatically assumed an author is trying to make a political statement just because one of their characters is homosexual.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    If she had to include an epilogue, I think it would have been best placed a few months after Voldemort’s defeat, and should have shown the surviving characters working to rebuild Hogwarts and the wizarding world. The mood would be bittersweet, but hopeful. Much was destroyed, but if we work together, a better world can rise from its ashes. She could have shown the Malfoys and various magical creatures cooperating with the good guys. Tying up the romantic loose ends would have been easy. And, most importantly, it wouldn’t have been so damn cheesy!

    Correct. This would have been a much better note to end the series on. The only thing I like about the way her epilogue was… it stops her from continuing the series. Perhaps this was a conscious decision on her part. If so, that was a mature thing to do.

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    Now, one thing that Always got me was the way sentient mythic creatures were treated. Giants are all outcast, werewolves as ostrised from society, Centaurs are restricted to woods, and dementors are couped up on an island. Now, I understand that a lot of those are evil, but this is a world of magic. Its shown that they have reducing spells (make giants the right size), medication (for werewolves), and spells that literaly create happiness (patronuses and a few other spells listed that boost happiness.). It just seems that with a little work they could get all of the races working togeather.

    Maybe I’m too biased about this, though =/

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      CommentAuthorArtimaeus
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    I’ve always wondered why there isn’t a black market for “happy potions,” in the HP universe. You’d think that the wizarding world would have some equivalent of cocaine (or weed, or LSD or any other drug) especially seeing as how they essentially teach the students how to brew the stuff in class.

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    Okay let’s say Dumbledore was the descendant of Jesus and Grindwal Judas. Oh look, more depth.

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      CommentAuthorInkasrain
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    See, I enjoyed the epilogue. My reading was that JKR was tracing the outlines of the characters lives for us so that we could get a glimpse of how they ended up without everything being given to us. And it was cheesy, true, but Harry’s conversation with Albus seemed genuinely sweet to me.

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    Oi, Rand- Hermione was fifteen. Her birthday is in September, so she was fifteen and like three months when she and Krum were involved. And think about it, mostly she's pretty darn mature. Hermione and Krum never bothered me. But then, I enjoy some rather odd ships... any other shippers here? Declare yourselves! :P
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    Dramione all the way! Inner fangirl; sometimes I can't control it. *shrugs shamelessly*
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      CommentAuthorCGilga
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009 edited
     

    I don’t really ship, although I feel Neville definitely deserves someone after all the crap he had to put up with throughout the series.

    What ever happened to Luna?

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

    LUNA/NEVILLE.

    One of my favourite ships. :)

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     
    Is Lunaville not canon? It seems such an obvious pairing.
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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

    I don’t remember it being mentioned… no wait, didn’t Luna go off with Dean in DH?

    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

    It never said what happened to her. That always annoyed me.

    • CommentAuthorMrHyde
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

    I have a female friend who ships Hermione/Snape. Those stories at worst almost approach the creepiness of Twilight but at best can actually be surprisingly sweet.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

    I have a female friend who ships Hermione/Snape.

    Ew. Ew.

    It never said what happened to her. That always annoyed me.

    I got all investigative, and apparently Rowling said in an interview she became a Naturalist, got married to some guy called Rolf… or Ralf, and had two kids.

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    Oh God, Hermoine/any adult just screams incest. I honestly have no idea how people can write ships like that. Oh, and Hermione/_Voldy?_ That’s going too far.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2009
     

    Incest? No, that’d be Hermoine/Mrs. Granger.

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    Ak, right sorry. I meant mo lest. (that works, right? Sorry, I’m not really savvy with these words. Can you blame me? ;P)

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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2009 edited
     
    Snape as a pedo?
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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2009
     

    Inconceivable! He loves only Lily.

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    True, but then again, the Dramione world is huge out there, and Hermione loves only Ron, right? ;)
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2009
     

    When I first started the books I was sure it would be Harry/Hermione, but whatever. :C

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    Really? I was convinced it was going to be Hermione/Ron. Now the Harry/Ginny thing really threw me off; I screamed when I read the kissing scene.

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    See, I always saw both ships coming. But I like Harry/Ginny. She's got enough guts to slap him over the head when he's being a moron, but sweet enough to understand him. I always liked Ginny.

    Now, I agree Hermione/ any adult can come across as creeptown. There are some ICKY Sirius/Hermione stories. But like MrHyde, I think a lot of the Snape/Hermione stories are quite sweet. It's best done as a meeting of the minds thing. Given the small number of fleshed out characters in the HP universe, he's the only one who comes across as an intellectual equal to Hermione (we are NOT mentioning Dumbledore. Ick. Ick. Ick. BRAIN BLEACH!).
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2009
     
    Ginny's got a lot of Mrs. Weasley in her. I know JKR writes her to be that way and it's all fine and dandy, but then she pops in the polar opposite of Ginny- her being vulnerable or just plain being a little sister or just a little girl at times.

    Uhm, right- Harry/Hermione. That would be a little bit obvious and I love Ron; well, I love Hermione too. They deserve each other and they are already like an old couple to each other anyway, always bickering. Hermione/Snape?! No way. He loves Lily, end of story. Anything else, I refuse to accept. And yeah, its a little scary. He's a teacher. There are lines that aren't crossed and that's a line.

    Harry/Ginny... oh, I've got so much to say about the two of them. Sometimes its ingenius of Ms. R., sometimes its just plain annoying. Well, I already covered some of this terrain. Somehow, I liked Harry/Luna but Luna is a little like a doughy, underdeveloped character. She really isn't as extensive (but is Ginny?!).

    Snape/Lily... now that was interesting. I may have been the only one in the universe who didn't see it coming... especially even after the Snivellus episode. But still! That's sheer genius of JKR right there.

    Dumbledore/Grindelwald: Yes. Right. (You guys do realize JKR specifically mentioned they were lovers way back when, right? That was in the 'Yep, he's gay' speech). Anyway, I still feel its not relevant to the story (though like Artimaeus, I think, said back there, it is very relevant to the character).

    Dumbledore/Minerva: I love Prof. Mc. She's amazing. Of course, there's probably another rule at Hoggy saying they can't marry other professors but still...

    Neville/???: Now, I would not have minded if Ginny had gotten with Neville. Just sayin'.

    Luna/Dean Thomas: No. She's so not getting Ginny's leftovers/the Quidditch team's leftovers/etc. I think she truly deserved Neville and they would have been an amazingly 'Aww!!!'-worthy couple but JKR didn't want to give we fans that much.
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      CommentAuthorDiamonte
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2009
     
    I always was a Luna Lovegood/Fred Weasley shipper, even though I knew it wasn't canon. I thought they would be a funny couple. =D I just was in love with Fred. =D

    Anyways, I loved Sirius, but I hate when people play him to be gay. =/ No. He's straight, and he's MINE [Sirius as he's illustrated in the books.... not in the movies, because Gary is squicky.]
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      CommentAuthorArtimaeus
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    Ah Gary. I nearly pissed myself laughing when I found out that he was in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

    • CommentAuthorGolcondio
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    What about the downtrodden not-entirely-human races? Hermione/Firenze, for example, or Hermione/Grawp?

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    That last one sounds painfull… D:

    :D

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    Ew. That's really disturbing. Hermione/Grawp... *shudder* Anyone ever read Hermione/Fleur? I haven't, but I'm just wondering if they're any good. Probably not.. ;P
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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    The scariest one I’ve ever read was Hermione/Hagrid.

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    *Runs to the bathroom to throw up* Ew. That's disgusting. What are your thoughts on Lily/James vs. Lily/Snape?
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    Is it impossible to have a decent Harry Potter discussion without 12 year olds fantasizing about their favorite couples?
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    Er, GC? I really think you should take it down a notch. It’s understandable if you have different opinions and all, but I think it’s natural that people would discuss different ships in a thread about a popular book series. If you want to talk about something different, then post a prompt about it and hope people catch on. Or at least say it in a nicer way. I’m not admin or anything like that, but I think it would be a good idea to try and be more…er…open minded? :) Thanks!

    (For the record, the strangest pairing I read about was Moody/Hermione. I’m a firm follower of Ron/Hermione and Lily….Sirius. Sorry, but no one can beat Sirius in pure awesomeness.)

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    See, I always thought Sirius/Remus made sense... they seem very yin and yang.

    "Embraced like brothers" my ass.
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    “Embraced like brothers” my ass.

    ...heh.

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    @ SlyShy: +50 points.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    Animagus furry shipping?

    I always thought Dumbledore/McGonagall made sense, until that announcement.

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     
    Yeah. Oh, and don't forget Bellatrix/Voldemort. That's got to have happened somewhere. Hmm, but there's more. What about Narcissa/Snape? Or Bellatrix/Snape. The latter would have a lot of tension.
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    Voldemort/Everyone. :)

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     
    Hahaha!
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    It could work. He has like…..magic. You know?

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009 edited
     
    But the other side has magic too. That's the problem.
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    He has cool magic.

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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     
    Well, he has horcruxes so that's seven of him. Well, six. Well, see, he can't Voldemort/Harry because that'd be like, weyed.
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    Bellatrix/Snape? Are you nuts? One of them would be dead in five minutes flat.

    Narcissa/Snape maybe... but Lucius and Narcissa are so perfect it seems a shame to separate them.
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    "Animagus furry shipping?"

    Don't go there. That way lies madness.

    I was always a Harry/Luna shipper myself.
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    I thought Luna should go with Neville. It just worked. Ah well.
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      CommentAuthorRand
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     
    Luna needed to be more meatily developed before Harry could consider looking at her. Because yeah, we are understanding the stereotype that she's a regular oddball but there's more to anyone, even an outrageous weirdo, than meets the eye. If only JKR could have allotted a little of that.
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    I liked the actress who portrayed her in the movie. I thought she did a good job.
    • CommentAuthorLord Snow
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009
     

    I thought so, too.

    • CommentAuthorSecretSanta
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2009 edited
     
    I love the Harry Potter series, especially number 4.
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    Movies were eh though.
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    The HP movies were eh though

    EDIT: Sorry, posted twice.
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    The movies were terrible in my opinion, but the books were enjoyable. Though I must say, after the first four, I was only reading the books because I wanted to know what happened next, and not because of the writing style, or the characters.
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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    The problem with the movies is that the books are too long, so too much stuff has to be cut. I think the worst case was Goblet of Fire.

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    Hey, was anyone as surprised as me in the last book when Voldy just started flying around?

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    YES. I was rather mad at JKR; it seemed like a bit of a plot hole to me. Why couldn't he just use a broom? It looks just as impressive. *shrug* Oh, and I can't believe the 7th movie will be in two parts; it's going to be torture! Or a relief, depending on how the movie is... ;)
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    Oh, come on! He's Voldemort, he needed a little villain ante up. He's not exactly the smartest villain. He needed a cool power. He's supposed to be a genius, so coming up with a flying spell shouldn't be too much of a stretch. And he taught it to Snape. Snape flying was one of the most awesome moments.

    Of course, best part of DH... : "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!!!!"
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    Thing is, He never really uses the flying for anything. He never swoops around, blasting wizards with his new-found mobility. He just, well, takes off randomly.

    “Go now, Death Eaters! Bring me Harry Potter! Voldermort Away!!!Whooooosh

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    The more I think about Harry Potter, the more I realize that all the characters are useless. Harry blindly stumbles from obvious trap to obvious trap, never does anything to solve the problems that are thrown at him and never makes any effort to take the fight to Voldemort. Ron's MO is to act like a douchebag for most of each book. Dumbledore allows his student to be placed in mortal danger because he doesn't want to knock off some punk kid who's out to kill him and he's not even smart enough to cast Identify on his new jewelry. In spite of everything that's ever mentionned about uniting the Wizarding world and getting the Houses to work together, Slytherin is always rubber stamped as the (useless) EVILLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! House. All the adults seem to think that keeping Harry ignorant of the impending doom that's hanging over his head is a good idea, even though they should know that he is dumber than rocks.

    The list just goes on. Quite depressing, really.
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    Yeah, I get what you're saying. I hated the bit in the 7th one, where Ron says 'Voldemort' by accident and then they get trapped at Malfoy Manor. Of course, I kind of liked this bit too because it sparked a lot of ideas for fan fics, but it bugged me that JKR couldn't think of a better plot stimulus.