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    Ok, as we all know, by far the best way to improve twilight is:

    We also have posted the standard +Batman and +Ninjas. What other ways would you improve twilight? (both serious and fun, try not to repeat)

    Me? Actually keep it as is. Edward’s fascinated with Bella because she’s the first woman he won’t get bored with after 5 minutes (because he can read their minds, get out of the gutter you). Only this time, Bella is – you know – interesting. (examples: A witch, a musical artist, famous actress and they have to deal with their relationship getting out in the tabloids, a raptor)

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    Edward + Raptor Bella = Best mental image ever.
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      CommentAuthorSpanman
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009
     

    Jacob should have never imprinted. Then he could stick around for the next several hundred years and ruin Bella’s love life forever.

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    (I’m going to hate myself for saying this…)

    I found it a little funny that a mormon book didn’t propose that Bella marry both guys.

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      CommentAuthorSpanman
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009
     

    Oh, jeez. I wonder how much more/less popular her books would be if she’d actually done that.

    On the subject of Edward and Jacob sharing Bella, there’s an actual quote from Breaking Dawn…
    “I don’t care about anything but keeping her alive. If it’s a child she wants, she can have it. She can have half a dozen babies. Anything she wants. She can have puppies, if that’s what it takes.”

    ...BAHAHAHA

    Anyway. About a million more similar gems can be found here

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009
     
    What if the Inquisition were involved? Burn the heretic in the name of the Emperor!

    On a more serious note, fleshing out the secondary characters, particularly the humans, as people, rather than stereotypes and cardboard cut-outs. I can't really comment on the book, but the film's characters seemed a bit flat.
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    On a more serious note, fleshing out the secondary characters, particularly the humans, as people, rather than stereotypes and cardboard cut-outs. I can’t really comment on the book, but the film’s characters seemed a bit flat.

    Jet on agony booth said

    Bella’s Friends (Anna Kendrick, Michael Welch, Christian Serratos, Justin Chon). I would dearly like to shake Ms. Hardwicke’s hand for the way she handled these guys. Personalities! Senses of humour! Character development! Believeability! Of all the characters in the Twilight universe, they’re the ones who got the most obvious overhaul, and it’s all for the good. I want these guys as my friends.

    So now imagine how much less there was in the source or something. (is it possible to have negative amount of character?)

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009
     
    Ooh, I haven't read that one. Thanks for the link.
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    Yeah, I always found it interesting that the characters I'd rather read about were all the background ones.

    And poor Esme...she got shafted in the powers department. She deserves something cool.
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    Another excellent point LucyWB. Imagine if the vampires were even more unique. Instead of having just speshul powers, one has speed, another has strength, but also weaknesses. Edward sparkles in the sunlight but another Cullen bursts into flames. One is allergic to garlic, another can be staked, etc.

    The only thing Meyerpires have in common with vampires proper is drinking blood, so let’s go whole hog and say that’s the only thing they have in common with each other.

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    Ohhh, hey...I like them having unique weakenesses. That'd put an interesting spin on things.
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    Edward: Bella, you must keep mirrors away, they are my weakness.
    Bella: How?
    Edward: I stare at myself in them. The last time it happened I spent thirteen years frozen before Carlise broke it.
    Bella: So… just mirrors then?
    Edward: Well I’m allergic to shellfish too.

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    Bella being mentally unstable and killing everyone in her school with a staple gun. Then marrying Ed. I am completely serious.
    • CommentAuthorCodeWizard
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009 edited
     

    Rape.

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      CommentAuthorSpanman
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009
     
    She was about to rape Edward for a lot of the last two books.
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    C’thultu dance numbers. Every 12 min. On the dot.

    Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn.

    And an explosion in every living room! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    :D

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    C’thultu dance numbers. Every 12 min. On the dot.

    After that, Steve Irwin appears and wrestles it to death.

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    Ladies, Gentlemen; We have ourselves a movie.

    :D

    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2009
     

    I think Renesmee should be born as a complete monster at first.

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    Hmm.
    So I think if they'd gotten to know each other more slowly at first, she wouldn't be so crazy in love then, and just be in love? Hence she wouldn't be so mushy? At, y'know, really meant-to-be-scary times?

    Exhibit A) The New Moon scene where she's getting dragged into the tunnel to meet the Volturi... that was actually quite scary, if I didn't keep getting dragged out of the scene because she was going on about love...
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    I know a way to improve it: take the narration away from Bella.
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    Bella: Noooo! Not the narration!
    SMeyer: Sorry, bub.

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    Give Bella a personality.

    That might fix about half your problems. I don't care whether she's a sweet girl or a crazy lady, as long as she's SOMETHING!
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    Bella#1: His hair was a gorgeous shimmering bronze. Just the sight of it made me melt.
    Bella#2: Dig the hair, ladies! Fo shizzle that guy makes me jizz!
    Bella#3: I snuck around the edge of the cafeteria wall. I had to peer at his hair; it was making me crazy. I hoped he didn’t see me…
    Bella#4: His hair was, like the rest of him, handsome. I suppose, if I was being honest, the way he looked was a large chunk of my attraction to him, but there was also something else about him that made me want to know him better…

    Gee. Put in Bella#4, and you’d have a completely unrecognisable story!

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      CommentAuthorSpanman
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     

    I like #2 better. >>

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      CommentAuthorArtimaeus
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     

    Make Bella black.

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     

    Make Carlisle a necromancer and Edward a reanimated corpse.

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    Oooo...make Carlisle like Victor Frankenstein! You could still have the reanimated Edward with that.
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      CommentAuthorPuppet
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     
    Switching all the genders in Twilight would be interesting...
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     

    Make Bella a hemophiliac. Blood = death.

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      CommentAuthorApep
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     
    @ Puppet:

    I'm pretty sure something like that's already been done with the Southern Vampire Mysteries books/ True Blood TV series. Sorta (girl reads minds, boyfriend is a vampire).
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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009 edited
     

    @Puppet – all of its fans would disappear because the main male lead would be ugly and clumsy and boring and all those other degrading adjectives Bella- excuse me, Bello in the new version- uses about her himself

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    Wait, but then Edward(ina) would be a girl anyway. The guy would still be hawt.
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    Hee hee, I told my friend he looked like Edward in makeup, and he hit me. Anyway, that would be interesting... Good idea for a fanfic...
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    Once my sister wore a bit too much makeup. I told her that only Edward's allowed to smear flour on his face.
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    Jet’s idea of having good vampires like the Cullens hunt down bad vampires in order to protect the humans. And they’d have different strengths and weaknesses.

    I take no credit for this idea; I have merely brought it to you from the Agony Booth.

    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2009
     

    I’m still going with Bella as a hemophiliac. That would be a twist.

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      CommentAuthorNorthmark
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009 edited
     
    Bella becoming pregnant with Edward's child before she knows he's a vampire.

    "EDWARD I'M PREGNANT HELP"
    "im a vampire! u'll be braking sum bones n stuff. o and u might die. lol sry "
    "FFFFFUUUUUUU-"
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Lol, I’d love to see that.

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    No, I think that would totally ruin the series. It's perfect the way it is now.
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    This came to me from the movie.

    The biggest enemy of science is death. Why? Because scientists die which mean new scientists have to spend time and effort learning what came before in order to proceed forward.
    Example:
    Allen makes a discovery. Allen dies.
    Bob comes along, studies Allen’s work and adds to it. Bob dies.
    Carl comes along, he studies Allen’s and Bob’s work before adding to them. Carl then dies.
    (etc etc)
    Enter: Meyerpires.

    They only have to learn the basics once and then can continue to make new discoveries indefinitely. Just imagine the Cullens’ home with this in mind. A chalkboard where the latest digit of Pi is listed. A room dedicated to prime numbers. As well as humorous scenes (Edward’s in algebra 101, working on string theory equations while the teacher talks). And, again, how that would impact a society. (would they ever need to hunt again? or would humans bring the “living libraries” food every day?)

    Seriously, did the books ever explain why Meyerpires live in hiding?

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    They're too gorgeous for everyone not to be their groupies.

    ...well, that's been changed now, hasn't it?
    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Crap, that’s a really cool idea….shakes head Meyer disappoints me even more.

  26.  
    I love debating with my friends about Twilight. A normal conversation goes a bit like this.
    Me: Twilight sucks, I know it, you know it, we all know it.
    My friends: Stop conjugating the damn verb, we get it. But it's really not that bad!
    Me: Oh really? Why?
    Friend: It just... It's just not as bad as you say it is OK?
    Me: Nope, give me proof.
    Friend: *Silence*
    You get the idea.

    About the Meyerpires, my math teacher hangs up allusions to math from movies on her board. One day I walk in and find a picture of... Guess what? Ed and Bella making out on the bed. It's this bit:

    Isabella Swan: Look, You gotta give me some answers.
    Edward Cullen: Yes. No. To get to the other side. Uh, 1.77245...
    Isabella Swan: I don't need to know what the square root of pi is.
    Edward Cullen: You knew that?

    So yes, there was a little math in the movie. You probably weren't the first to think of that Nate!
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    I live and breath math and I don’t memorize the square root of pi. The reason being that’s one of the singularly most useless things to know, ever. That expression never comes up in real math problems. Oh well, Smeyer.

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    The square root of two would have been more practical, no?
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    I know most of the square roots from 1 to 10, because those do come up.

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    Oh wait! Silly me, the point is that Bella's SMART! Wow, everything makes sense now, why she's in love with a freaky stalker, why she's such a kind person...
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    ...Because she knows the square root of pi!

    (Move over, 42, THIS must be the answer to the ultimate question!)
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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Why she jumps off cliffs in order to hear her freaky stalker scolding her…
    But the rest of the movie doesn’t really try to establish her as smart, other than the glance-analysis in the Biology class, which apparently isn’t noteworthy, so the Pi Incident seems a little out of place.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Her intelligence is extremely poorly characterized. None of the things she does make rational sense. Which isn’t to say that characters should only act rationally—indeed well written characters do act irrationally, just as humans do. But from someone as “intelligent” I would expect more analysis of a situation before doing the irrational thing.

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    Even if it was just

    Her thoughts screamed at her as she rode. What are you doing? There are better ways! What if.. She brushed them aside. This was the only way.

    Or something better written than what I can scratch out :D

    I just want to see some doubt with her, even if its only temporary.

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    I was going to quote the book, but I honestly can't find it... Anyhoo, there's a bit where Bella says something like 'I'm stupid' and then Ed smiles apologetically. As if saying 'yes, you are stupid. Sorry.' So there you go. In addition to this, Bella has already done all the labs and read all the books that the school requires. Woo hoo, go her. She should get a medal. My point is, none of this proves to me that she is smart.
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    Bella has already done all the labs…

    The first time I misread that as “done all the lads”

    Which means by accident, RVL has also given a suggestion on how to improve the book.

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    Oh. My. God. THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS!!!! Mike, Eric, Tyler, Sam, Seth, Jasper, Emmet (no wait, he'd probably crush her or something... scratch that), Jacob, the possibilities are endless. That would make a wicked fanfic...
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    Then you have to wonder, would her blood still smell so good to Edward if she gets all those diseases flowing through it?

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    Oh, Bella’s high school guy friends are hardly the type to have STDs. Eric’s pretty much set on being a career virgin.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     

    I also read it just like that, and again when I reread it.
    Edward should be immune to all diseases, because he’s dead. And a Meyerpire, so he probably cures STDs as well.

  35.  
    Here's an idea, if Bella did all the boys, and she got pregnant... Well then, we wouldn't even have to deal with Ed!
    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Maybe Twilight would just be better as a classic Noir film. Actually, vampires in detective noir seems like an excellent idea. Hold on a moment while I write this down.

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    Twilight as a children’s moral story book series. You know the sort:

    Edward and the Window: a story about respecting others’ privacy
    Bella and the Spring Dance: a story about lying
    Alice and the Vision: a story about meddling in other people’s affairs
    Aro and Alice: a story about covetuousness
    Rosalie and the New Family Member: a story about envy

    etc etc.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    Edward and the Window: a story about respecting others’ privacy
    Bella and the Spring Dance: a story about lying
    Alice and the Vision: a story about meddling in other people’s affairs
    Aro and Alice: a story about covetuousness
    Rosalie and the New Family Member: a story about envy

    Yes. This is so getting written.

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    Despite never having talked to her in my life, I need Kitty to do the illustrations. We so should!

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    I’ll speak to my medium who will in turn contact the spirit of Kitty. It’s a complicated process, you see.

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    Um. I don’t like dealing with the underworld very much. Last time I ended up locked out of my house covered in paint with my underwear on my head.

  39.  
    Wow, Nate's gonna come back and realise we've totally hijacked his thread.
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    *waves hands in air* okay, everyone continue on like normal now, darlinks, no, no, freddie, don' put dat on dere, gut boy...
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    If he had any guts he would hijack it back.

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    Wow, Nate’s gonna come back and realise we’ve totally hijacked his thread.

    As if I care. It’s not like I have any spare nukes for you anyway.
    ...
    Oh here’s one!

    Maybe Twilight would just be better as a classic Noir film. Actually, vampires in detective noir seems like an excellent idea. Hold on a moment while I write this down.

    I think they had that a series Sly. It was done by Joss Whedon. Started with an A. Ended with “ngel”.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2009
     

    I think they had that a series Sly. It was done by Joss Whedon. Started with an A. Ended with “ngel”.

    I’ve watched it. That’s not quite what I’m getting at, though.

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    I figured Sly, what is funny is that’s how behind the scenes is described. Angel was supposed to be very Noir with, of course, a vampire.

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     
    It's well named.
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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2009
     

    Well, at least it would solve the problem of Kristen Stewart having no expression on her face…

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    True, very true…

  45.  

    awesome ftw

  46.  

    A friend of mine sent me Twilight- the really real version.

    • CommentAuthorAri
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     
    The sad thing is Bella has more expression with the smiley than in real life. D:
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      CommentAuthorOverlordDan
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009 edited
     

    It all makes sense now! I know why Edward can’t read Bella’s mind!

    EDIT: Fixed! Special thanks to Nate, for being super awesome. :D

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Teh link iz borked. You put an extra “http” in there.

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    Dan that would also explain a lot about Bella’s only 2 expressions.

  48.  
    Lol Edward's forehead is crinkly. And why is his eyebrow like that?

    And did you notice, the other half of Bella's face looks more like a vampire than Eddie?
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    Now I so want to write a story about cyborg vampires fighting ninja werewolves.

  50.  
    GO ON! DO IT! on a story thread, or something! Just give guidelines that it can't deviate too far from some rules you put in place or whatever.
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    Did I mention that I love you? This is AWESOME!

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    It is AWESOME indeed.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Hm. If they mixed Twilight and Terminator that would indeed be better. Of course they should also replace Kristin Stewart with Summer Glau.

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Summer Glau? But she’s weird.

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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Even weird is better than Kristen Stewart…

    Actually, all I know about Summar Glau is from xkcd.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    I must create more Firefly and Serenity fans so people understand. :/

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    I’ll understand as I can convince my favourite Physics teacher to lend me her DVDs.

  53.  
    I know a great way of improving Twilight: rocks fall, everyone dies
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      CommentAuthorswenson
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Better yet- Jacon summons Bigger Fish. Everyone dies.

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    I must create more Firefly and Serenity fans so people understand. :/

    I’m a fan Sly. It’s ok.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Summer Glau! <3

    And she is so sweet at cons. ^^

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Have you met her?

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Yup. :3 She’s so tiny!

    Going off to meet Nathan Fillion and Ben Browder tomorrow. <3

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    I am no so very jealous of Jeni that I cannot speak to her.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2009
     

    Jeni goes to a huge number of conventions. /jealous