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Ever read the series? I recently re-read it— I enjoyed it a lot more this time, since there were lots of allusions scattered throughout the series that I didn’t get before and do now.
If you haven’t read it, give it a try! It’s pretty light reading. (By that, I mean it’s easy to read, not that the plot is lighthearted. It’s not very lighthearted.)
The plot is also immensely confusing. I finished all thirteen books and had even less clue what was going on then when I began! But yeah, they’re good. They’re funny, entertaining, thought-provoking (because you’re trying to work out what on earth is going on the entire time), and balance the serious stuff with humor well. Books that are all humor aren’t usually books you gush over, because they aren’t very deep. But this series melds the two nicely.
Not to imply they’re not humorous, because they are. They just have a lot of serious stuff in them, too.
I read a couple here and there. This is one of the few series where I thought the movie adaptation might have been better than the books. Just because the books are sort of simple reading, so not too much is lost in the transition.
I really liked the books when I was younger but I think they aged less well than some of my other childhood reading. Narnia, LOTR, even Golden Compass, a lot of books I think were better at being readable by children without feeling too light once I got older. But I should probably try them again sometime soon. I’m sure they’d make a nice contrast to dense, overly-theoretic academic work.
I liked them when I was younger. I think I still have the entire collection of books sitting on the bedroom shelf, though I haven’t really looked at them since I finished number 13. I probably should reread them at some point, though I’m not sure I’ll have the time to at any point in the near future. I do rather like the dark humor and I agree that it was balanced well with the drama.
Oh, and I don’t think the series was ever really well suited to be a movie 1) because it’s so episodic and 2) you have to get a looong way in before you have idea of what’s actually happening. The movie itself seemed more of an excuse for Jim Carrey to do his routine than an attempt to retell the story. It’s a pity too, because I liked The Truman Show and I think Carrey is able to be a compelling protagonist/antagonist when he wants to be. Oh well.
Yeah, it does. It’s okay, though, because the author actually oh-so-eloquently explains the difficult ones to you, just in case.
if you take ‘unreliable narrator’ to mean someone sort of involved in the action, but quite removed, try:
Gaston Leroux’s ‘The Phantom Of The Opera’
Amy Goldman Koss’ ‘Gossip Times Three’
Also, Twilight, cause Bella’s too in wuv to think clearly.
you can also wikipedia it, and it has some examples of U.N.‘s
Careful readers will notice that there is unreliable narratation in A Song of Ice and Fire. The Sansa chapters in particular.
Thats my favorite part of Game of Thrones, re-reading it to see what everyone is doing in the background :D
Oh, yeah, the movie sucked so badly. It was like some cheap soapie. With pseudo-serious acting.
Mmmm. I was dissapointed with it, and I was dissapointed with Hitchhiker’s Guide. So sad D:
I didn’t mind the movie, I thought they picked up the atmosphere of the books nicely. I was intensely disappointed in the end of the series, though. I had bought into all of the shtick hook-line-sinker, played every game and read every piece of the massive and bizarre puzzle. But the last two books of the series presented no answers; just more mind games and twisted allegory. I couldn’t help but feel that the story had gotten much too convoluted for Handler, and he had ceased caring about his series enough to bring all the pieces together in even a semi-satisfying manner.
My frustration wasn’t helped by the way the publishers handled the series, either. The earlier books were released in much closer succession (two per year, I think) but as the series got more popular, they started releasing only one book a year. It was frankly kind of insulting for such short reads, and the books just weren’t good enough, all told, to merit that kind of suspenseful release pattern.
I never really got into them. Read the first few, thought they were boring and not funny/suspenseful at all.
Yeah, they were better.
Oh, I hated how nothing added up at the end.
I’m still hoping Handler’s writing and releasing a surprise book that will explain everything.
I wouldn’t put it past him.
I don’t think I’d buy anything else Snicket-themed. He’s taken more than enough of my money as it is, so unless I’m guaranteed revelatory content, he isn’t getting one cent more.
Thirteen times burned… ;-)
What does VFD stand for? Jeez!
I think that lack of closure is the point that the author is trying to make. Tales are all woven together, and each aspect of a tale has its own tale, ending up in the world being full of secrets that nobody can hope to ever unravel. It really comes across as a sad feeling, but I still wouldn’t want all the plot holes patched up. It would sort of ruin the “world is a big mystery” feel that the books have.
I completely disagree with you. I felt so cheated, not knowing the end. The feeling I got upon finishing the series was that Daniel Handler got so tangled up in his own plot that he couldn’t work out how to round it off. Which smacks of poor authorship. Or even worse, that he didn’t respect the readers (_his_ readers) enough to give us a proper plot and a feeling of satisfaction after all that slogging through misery after misery experienced by the Baudelaires. Instead, he just strung us along for a pointless, repetitive journey that dragged through thirteen books (and, yes, okay, if you want to get technical, a fourteenth as well. Even worse) and for what? A non-ending. A nothing.
The whole POINT of stories is just that: to tell a story, to unravel the secrets of a tale. Not to provide random excerpts of a tale, but to give you the whole thing in a way you can understand. I personally feel that I’ve been insulted- I’ve read all these books to be entertained, waiting breathlessly for a conclusion, and instead, apparently the author didn’t care enough about why books are read in the first place. Nobody wants to be preached at. People read to enjoy themselves. This wasn’t enjoyable.
If it was a short story, or even a poem, I wouldn’t mind at all. That’s where the ideas such as ‘lack of closure’ belong. But a whole long (and how!) series is just too long a wild goose chase to bother with. It’s a crime against the art of storytelling, to let those books still be regarded as a tale.
I do want the plot holes patched up. Before the last book came out, I was on tenterhooks. I couldn’t wait to see what this guy had done. I was expecting some literary conniving plot-weaving-twisting triumph from Daniel Handler. Something that would fantastically weave all these elements into a complete and breathtaking whole.
What we got was unspeakable.
No closure. Give me a break.
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There. I’ve used up my rants and my italics for the day.
But it’s a series of unfortunate events. He’s either got to make the ending miserable, which would suck, or else toss the whole premise out the window by making an ending that will satisfy the readers.
@Steph: Agree completely. It wasn’t as though I needed an answer for everything, but an overall sense of closure was called for and not delivered; not even remotely.
VFD= Volunteer Fire Department. It is possibly the only relevant V.F.D. initial combo they don’t use in them books. Plus, the second you google ‘VFD’, you’ll get some fire department results. I think.
Don’t forget the Very Fresh Dill, the Verse Fluctuation Declaration, etc.
I won’t forget it. Oh, and I never read the Beatrice Letters either. I couldn’t afford it and it had pictures, too.
Oh, don’t even bother with BL. It’s a waste of time.
Very Frilly Doilies. I think that was the first one used.
But it’s a series of unfortunate events. He’s either got to make the ending miserable, which would suck, or else toss the whole premise out the window by making an ending that will satisfy the readers.
hmmm… I still reckon he could’ve pulled it off. And yeah, a sense of closure- plus, he could’ve gone, “and from then on there were no more unfortunate events for the Baudelaire children, and so there we shall have to leave them.”
Which still sounds a little depressing, if you like.
But also some resolution to the thing- it had all the makings of a PG Wodehouse-worthy plot (as in The Code of the Woosters), and then it wasn’t rounded off.
You shouldn’t do black humour for the sake of it.
Well, to each his own. I didn’t mind the ending so much, but I can certainly understand why you feel that way…I definitely don’t think that he didn’t know how to round it off, though. I’m almost certain it was a conscious choice on his part to convey the message of “the world is a big, mysterious place”. What (I think) came with that, though, was a bit of an air of pompousness. The story was never really a deep story or anything, and it’s made out as if it was in the last couple of books. But I still enjoyed them substantially nonetheless.
And, yeah, I think V.F.D. is Volunteer Fire Department. But I could be wrong.
Yeah, I figure it’s Volunteer Fire Department. Something totally ordinary, but written about so mysteriously you have no clue what it is!
Mm. Yeah.
“And then they took him/ yea they took him/ they took him far away…” All together now…
I sang that. And played it on the piano. The music’s in the one book.
Oh, yes. Now its stuck in my head and I can happily do geometry to it.
@ Adam: yeah, I know he would’ve had that in mind. But to me that’s the way it still comes across. I guess it’s personal taste.
I like the Heart-Shaped Balloon song.
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