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    Just wondering if anybody else has read (or is reading, or is thinking of reading) Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. I'm currently on book 5. I like it. I have a few minor problems (like his love affair with apostrophes), but I think the series is very well crafted in general. So, things you liked? Things you didn't? Problems with the cover art?
    This is the first time I've started a non-introductory thread, so please respond!
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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2009
     

    Read the first, and planning on reading the rest, but… money. Time. The usual excuses.

    • CommentAuthorSlyShy
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2009
     

    No library around where you are? I suppose having to buy eleven books to read the series would be an obstacle if that’s the case.

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      CommentAuthorJeni
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2009
     

    I like buying books. :$ And no, not really, the main library is in the city, and I rarely go there.

    Also, I put my library card in a safe place before I left, and, let me tell you, it’s a very safe place. :D

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      CommentAuthorMoldorm
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2009
     
    I enjoyed it, particularly the first six or so books. The later ones (such as the infamous book ten) suffer from terrible padding.
    Also, the author is obsessed with describing everything in detail, particularly dresses, introducing unnecessary new characters when old ones will suffice, resulting in a cast of thousands, many of whom will never appear again, and many antagonists are underdeveloped. The author has also been criticised for his unrealistic depictions of women, and all the gratuitous nudity and sado-masochism. And there are many frustratingly unresolved plot threads.
    But apart from that, it's good. And it's fun to spot the stuff that Paolini shamelessly lifted for Inheritance (the thirteen Forsaken, Perrin's actions in book 4 (especially the discussions on facial hair...), etc.), even though the series is uncomfortably similar to Lord of the Rings itself at times (the first half or so of book one, Trollocs/Myrdraal).
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    I stole them from my friend ^^.
    I do find myself wondering how he's going to manage to keep up the plot entanglements for twelve books, but I haven't gotten bored yet (as I did with Eldest), so I'm ever hopeful. The detail doesn't really bother me, actually. I'm not sure why. Maybe I automatically skip over it? And I've given up trying to keep the characters straight. If they're going to be important, they'll appear often enough for me to remember their names.
    How were his depictions of women unrealistic? I mean, I didn't think they were, and I am a woman, so...maybe I just think too highly of my own sex?
    What does Perrin do in book...oh. That. Yeah. Wow. I guess that is rather lifted.
    I (shamefully) almost saw the first book as a video game. You have your Everyday Evil Minions, and your Slightly Harder Evil Minions, and The World Map, and the end reminded me ridiculously of a final boss battle. Probably because the Forsaken guy just seemed to pop up out of nowhere.
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    I read through about 4 of them, but then had to put the series down. There were no real bad guys, just some guys that we had to take their word for it that they were tough.

    And Balefire. That seemed a stretch to me.

    • CommentAuthorJinx
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2009
     
    I've read all the ones that are out. I liked the story and, yes, I did skip over the endless descriptions of what everyone was wearing. I am really curious about how it will end now that he's dead and someone else is finishing it.
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      CommentAuthorPearl
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2009
     

    Woah… old thread.

    Just finished Book 12. It was very good, I thought. Brandon Sanderson did an exceptional job with it, it sounded natural and fitted the tone of the other books. I am also pleased that he picked up the pace a little, with the whole story taking place over about two months, I beleive.

    And now I have to wait for far too long until Book 13. D:

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      CommentAuthorKyllorac
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2009
     

    I tried reading the first book. I gave up after, I think, Chapter 5. There was massive description overload, some of it contradictory, and I was calling character roles and plot points without even trying. Basically, it was way predictable, and there was much too much description padding for my tastes.

    I think that I was reading an ebook version also contributed. Headache-inducing screen with annoying text do not a pleasant reading experience make.

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      CommentAuthorPearl
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2009
     

    Oh, I’m sorry you don’t like this series, Kyllorac. I think it’s awesome.

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      CommentAuthorLeliel
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2009
     

    Longtime fan here. I received #12 as a gift a few days ago and have yet to find the time to crack it open. One of my friends who has also been following the series along the entire time read it and approved, so I’m really looking forward to how Sanderson handles it. I read fairly quickly so too many details can’t be a bad thing. I’ve heard the complaint about his depiction of women before, though I’ve never understood it myself. Nudity and sadomasochism is new to me o_o; I can think of worse books in that department.

    Yes, the cover art is dreadful. I seem to recall Trollocs being woefully wrong on most of them, especially TGH’s guys with helmets. And the less said about LoC’s Safeway Romance Tale the better.

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      CommentAuthorPearl
    • CommentTimeDec 28th 2009
     

    I completely agree about the cover art. Book 12 was the first time I really realized the weirdness of it.
    The best one was for Book 1, I thought. I really like that cover.

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      CommentAuthorKyllorac
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2009
     

    Oh, I’m sorry you don’t like this series, Kyllorac. I think it’s awesome.

    I don’t dislike it. I just couldn’t read it. In the same vein, I haven’t been able to read Wilde’s The Picture of Dorian Gray either, and it’s not from lack of trying or comprehension. D:

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      CommentAuthorLeliel
    • CommentTimeJan 10th 2013
     

    If I may perform some thread necromancy, has anyone else finished AMoL? Not a series that promotes a lot of discussion around here, but…

    Non-specific but maybe a bit spoily comment:

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      CommentAuthorFalling
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2013
     

    I have read the 1st, 2nd, and 4th book…
    So maybe a couple years from now I might be on AMoL (there is a serious lack of WofT books in the regional library.)

    • CommentAuthorMerlitaru
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2013
     
    I tried reading this series, I really did. I was interested, but as the books dragged on and became filled with fodder instead of plot, I grew disinterested. Especially when I saw characters start pairing up with other characters for no other reason other because they were pretty.

    I disliked the main character, and instead found myself more interested with what was happening with his friends. But even that didn't prove to be enough to hold my interest after they became doomed to fall in love with this person or that person.

    I really wanted to like this series.
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      CommentAuthorFair&Finn
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2013
     

    (This is Finn, by the way)
    I have a friend who loves these books, but I don’t think it looks like they’re for me. Fourteen books, with lots of description? No thanks. However, I do plan on reading the first one. I think the Aae Sedi (Or however that word is spelled) Sound interesting.
    Limyaael did a rant on Robert Jordan, by the way.

    • CommentAuthorNossus
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2013
     

    Especially when I saw characters start pairing up with other characters for no other reason other because they were pretty.

    Kind of like real life

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      CommentAuthorRandomX2
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2013
     

    Especially when I saw characters start pairing up with other characters for no other reason other because they were pretty.

    Kind of like real life

    This is true. Where I felt the book did not follow real life at all was the politics and character traits starting around book 5ish. Rand went from minimal knowledge to politics master in like 200 pages (which sounds like a lot, I suppose…). I think at some point he mentions he feels disgust at how easily he manipulates people, but it clashes with the feel of everything that happens beforehand. He shouldn’t be able to manipulate people at all.

    Plus, Aes Sedai get unnecessarily shafted in later books. Jordon takes the whole “Aes Sedai are actually weaker than they look and are just relying on their air of mystery” idea a bit too far, and makes every generic Aes Sedia look either annoyingly proud or cowardly. I get that they’re just normal women who developed magic, but the White Tower training is supposed to develop personality and harshly weed out the weak. Moiraine’s Aes Sedai test from New Spring is intense. If someone can keep their composure during something like that, then they’re a hero unit in my eyes. And yet Aes Sedai in later books either panic, faint or throw up anytime anything serious happens. They show no wisdom despite most being over ~50 and having gone through a hellish test, they should have stronger personality traits.

    The first book is the best, imo. It has balanced character personalities, and an underlying survival-mission feel to it that disappears in the later books as the main characters become overpowered. Especially Mat. Having luck as a power lets the character win every encounter without being unrealistic as far as in-book logic goes. /disorganized rant